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Before all this kicked off there were some very strong opinions on how the Welsh Health Services were being run in Wales , I just hope the administrations have upped their game , as thier front line staff really do need them and the supply lines working asvthdy should . Perhaps we should examine the efficiency of the welsh management before we fully launch into the blame game ?
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Penywaun gentrified
And this is fully 10 days after Welsh Assembly went public on this. You don't think we may have been 'spoken to' in the meantime to toe the national (ie UK) line ?
Wasn't it testing kits not PPE that this was about???
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Elwood Blues
Wasn't it testing kits not PPE that this was about???
You mustn't let facts get in the way of these arguments. :hehe:
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tell it like it is
You genuinely believe that utter horseshit? Cardiff were right not to vote for it...
Yes Westminster has Boris, Corbyn and Diane Abbott.
The Bae has Adam Price when he was in Westminster he won award after award for best politician in the place, Harvard type, we have Leanne Wood girl of the people, done lots of ordinary jobs, front line activist, lives in the same street she was brought up, it's said she doesn't take pay rises and gives loads to charity, uses public transport to get work etc.
I know they are Plaid politicians but come on they are different gravy to most of those in Westminster, look at the Scottish Parliament they have Nicola Sturgeon and she is the best first minister, prime minister type in the UK and she is not in Westminster.
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life on mars
Before all this kicked off there were some very strong opinions on how the Welsh Health Services were being run in Wales , I just hope the administrations have upped their game , as thier front line staff really do need them and the supply lines working asvthdy should . Perhaps we should examine the efficiency of the welsh management before we fully launch into the blame game ?
I know of a porter in the Royal Gwent who was tested for the virus when his counter parts in England were not getting tested (don't know if that had changed now).
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If you think Nicola Sturgeon is the best politician in the country then you have a very strange idea of what constitutes good.
She is presiding over a government that is so obsessed with independence that it has neglected it first duties to the degree where the scottish economy is in Billions of pounds of debt, their health service is even worse than the welsh one, god help them, and she is telling people they will be better off without the rest of britain propping the country up. They have a disproprtionate number of MP's a thing vigerously defended by the labour party when they were all red, until the SNP came and bit them, so their numbers in parliament are part of the reason that labour are unlikely to get a majority any time soon and she is the best politician in the country. Again, God help us!!
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Elwood Blues
Wasn't it testing kits not PPE that this was about???
Test kits and PPE, the PPE was for care homes in Wales and separately the test kits were meant for the Welsh NHS.
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xsnaggle
If you think Nicola Sturgeon is the best politician in the country then you have a very strange idea of what constitutes good.
She is presiding over a government that is so obsessed with independence that it has neglected it first duties to the degree where the scottish economy is in Billions of pounds of debt, their health service is even worse than the welsh one, god help them, and she is telling people they will be better off without the rest of britain propping the country up. They have a disproprtionate number of MP's a thing vigerously defended by the labour party when they were all red, until the SNP came and bit them, so their numbers in parliament are part of the reason that labour are unlikely to get a majority any time soon and she is the best politician in the country. Again, God help us!!
When they had leaders debates in previous elections the English press often thought she won, that she beat the Westminster politicians who were Prime Ministers and leaders of Her Majesty's opposion, yet the English media thought she came out on top as regards domestic politics her party is dominant and has been for sometime now.
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trampie09
When they had leaders debates in previous elections the English press often thought she won, that she beat the Westminster politicians who were Prime Ministers and leaders of Her Majesty's opposion, yet the English media thought she came out on top as regards domestic politics her party is dominant and has been for sometime now.
Having a debate and running a country are so far removed from each other as to be irrelevant. She has had time to being to sort these problem out but has done nothing but bang the eveolution drum. Speak to Scots living and wroking south of the border and ask their opinion.
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xsnaggle
Having a debate and running a country are so far removed from each other as to be irrelevant. She has had time to being to sort these problem out but has done nothing but bang the eveolution drum. Speak to Scots living and wroking south of the border and ask their opinion.
Trampie / Organ fail to grasp lil Krankie doesn't really want independence.
Rail against EEEVVVIIILLLL English? Gets voters in Jockland. Get independence? Eh, then SNP would have to stand on their performance, can't blame Westminster.
She's like Scrappy Doo except wanting to be held back.
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xsnaggle
Having a debate and running a country are so far removed from each other as to be irrelevant. She has had time to being to sort these problem out but has done nothing but bang the eveolution drum. Speak to Scots living and wroking south of the border and ask their opinion.
Scots in recent years vote for her party in droves, there is no denying that.
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trampie09
Scots in recent years vote for her party in droves, there is no denying that.
And that's just the farmers....
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tell it like it is
Trampie / Organ fail to grasp lil Krankie doesn't really want independence.
Rail against EEEVVVIIILLLL English? Gets voters in Jockland. Get independence? Eh, then SNP would have to stand on their performance, can't blame Westminster.
She's like Scrappy Doo except wanting to be held back.
I don't believe that Trampie is Organ at all.
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Taunton Blue Genie
I don't believe that Trampie is Organ at all.
Nor me :hehe:
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Taunton Blue Genie
I don't believe that Trampie is Organ at all.
Maybe that's what he wants you to think... :wave:
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Is Organ a valley commando that supports all Welsh teams across all sports and politically does he vote for the home team ?
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xsnaggle
If you think Nicola Sturgeon is the best politician in the country then you have a very strange idea of what constitutes good.
She is presiding over a government that is so obsessed with independence that it has neglected it first duties to the degree where the scottish economy is in Billions of pounds of debt, their health service is even worse than the welsh one, god help them, and she is telling people they will be better off without the rest of britain propping the country up. They have a disproprtionate number of MP's a thing vigerously defended by the labour party when they were all red, until the SNP came and bit them, so their numbers in parliament are part of the reason that labour are unlikely to get a majority any time soon and she is the best politician in the country. Again, God help us!!
Not sure any nationalist party can say they'd be better off, just that they'd be responsible for their issues and could make different decisions. Is she the best politician? I think you raise some valid points, not enough is made of SNP's limitations with what they do control, but hope you remember that she first came to prominence during debates with David Cameron when pundits remarked that the eventual prime minister of the UK knew so little about Scotland that couldn't counter her debate points...
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The thing is tbhat there are a number of welsh people who have it in their hgeads that every person in any authority in England has an agenda to put down the welsh, whereas in reality most people in that position in England never even think about Wales
Isn't that enough of a concern? Wales is literally forgotten, at least until it's time to bash labour in Westminster, so that investment only happens when attached to Bristol. We need better politicians too (we ended up with Kent's finest who once got drunk in Common's bar so missed a vote and Neil Hamilton because there are some people living in Wales who hate the idea of Wales being distinct from England in any way) and better media because the twitter page "That's devolved" has far, far too many entries.
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As long as our media coverage is dominated by unionist, London outlets I can understand why so many Welsh people have a negative opinion of our own ability.
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Just out of curiosity, why are some people against people in Wales making decisions that affect Wales? Why is Wales better off being ruled far away in London by MPs, very few of whom live here and don't always consider Wales when making decisions?
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Eric the Half a Bee
Just out of curiosity, why are some people against people in Wales making decisions that affect Wales? Why is Wales better off being ruled far away in London by MPs, very few of whom live here and don't always consider Wales when making decisions?
Possibly because we've seen the talking shop that is the Welsh Assembly in action and realise they are inept? Giving them more powers... lol.
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These letters to vulnerable people is yet another example of how much better it is for government and service in wales to be run by wales!!!!
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William Treseder
It'll be ok. We’re all in it together !
"Union of equals"
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City123
"Union of equals"
So you think Wales, Scotland, N Ireland should have more power on a per person basis?
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tell it like it is
So you think Wales, Scotland, N Ireland should have more power on a per person basis?
I think all nations in the UK should receive equal treatment as we are supposed to be a union of equals
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Eric the Half a Bee
Just out of curiosity, why are some people against people in Wales making decisions that affect Wales? Why is Wales better off being ruled far away in London by MPs, very few of whom live here and don't always consider Wales when making decisions?
Nobody hates the Welsh more than the Welsh