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Thread: Le Fondre

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    Le Fondre


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    We know what we're thinking but dare not say!

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    So he thinks if he scores tonight he wasn't a waste of money? Talk about deluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    We know what we're thinking but dare not say!
    We got rid of him, 3 goals in 25 games.

    This season with Bolton he's really back to prolific goalscoring form with 2 in 22 games.

    If he scores, our central defenders should be taken round the back of the stadium and shot.

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    Didn't Slade buy a Le Fondre top, and wear it out and about ?

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    He can't genuinely think he wasn't a waste of money? Surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    He can't genuinely think he wasn't a waste of money? Surely?
    He won't be if he scores tonight. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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    He never wanted to be here, he never could be bothered to put any effort in, he thought he was better than he is.
    Couldnt care less if he scores tonight - as we'll score more - and we'll tackle him so hard he'll want to come off asap

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    I would put my mortgage on him not scoring tonight....if I had one!

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    Iíll have 10p on him to score then!

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    I won’t be at all surprised if he scored tonight, former players normally do against us? As long as we win it won’t matter!

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    The problem was he didn’t want to leave Reading but we had to sell him to sort out an unpaid tax bill. So he probably came to Cardiff on a downer. He was poor value for you although Morrison proved to be good value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    He never wanted to be here, he never could be bothered to put any effort in, he thought he was better than he is.
    Couldnt care less if he scores tonight - as we'll score more - and we'll tackle him so hard he'll want to come off asap
    one of his last games at home -maybe his last- he had 4/5 simple headers to score. Put them all well wide. He went soon after giving the club that message..

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    He didnít get the best service however when he did get the ball he wasnít a competent striker.

    A very overrated player and just hit a purple patch at Reading

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    He did naff all last night!

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    To be fair our defence didnít let him

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    Yes, Peltier, Manga and Morrison were solid. Not totally convinced by Traore as a left back, he seems more of an attacking player. Lovely finish for the goal though.

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    He is so limited it's untrue. That attempt from 30 yards when only Ronaldo in World football could have pulled that off was bizarre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    He never wanted to be here, he never could be bothered to put any effort in, he thought he was better than he is.
    Couldnt care less if he scores tonight - as we'll score more - and we'll tackle him so hard he'll want to come off asap
    My recollection is that LeFondre didn't attract the stick Macheda (who scored more for us than LeFondre) did because it was generally felt that at least he was putting in the effort - both of them were poor signings though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    My recollection is that LeFondre didn't attract the stick Macheda (who scored more for us than LeFondre) did because it was generally felt that at least he was putting in the effort - both of them were poor signings though.
    He blamed our style of play, when I remember him missing twice from a couple of yards, if that!

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    Why didn't he or Amoeba () play last night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    My recollection is that LeFondre didn't attract the stick Macheda (who scored more for us than LeFondre) did because it was generally felt that at least he was putting in the effort - both of them were poor signings though.
    Just looked up Macheda on Wikipedia.

    Now playing in Italy for a team in Serie B Novara , not a team I am familiar with. Did OK for them last season , but only 1 goal in 12 appearances so far this season.

    While he was with us , I had the view that he was another player that thought he was better than he actually was and didn`t want the effort in because of that (the "I used to play for Man Utd" attitude).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since62 View Post
    Just looked up Macheda on Wikipedia.

    Now playing in Italy for a team in Serie B Novara , not a team I am familiar with. Did OK for them last season , but only 1 goal in 12 appearances so far this season.

    While he was with us , I had the view that he was another player that thought he was better than he actually was and didn`t want the effort in because of that (the "I used to play for Man Utd" attitude).
    Novara are quite interesting. It's becoming fairly common in Italy (see SPAL and Benevento this season) whereby a team gets a double promotion into Serie A, gets completely outclassed and goes down again. Novara's last few seasons have been promotion, promotion, relegation, lost in playoff final, relegation, promotion, 9th!

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    I remember seeing Le Fondre when he was at Birmingham and thought his game was limited. He had a tendency to score goals when balls were threaded through for him to latch onto, and he was a confidence player. Like a cheap Michael Owen. Back to goal he had the strength of a intoxicated nat, not that strong in the air, not that great taking shots on a cross and had the first touch of a rapist. To Reading's credit they understood his strengths and weaknesses well, signed him, and played the football that allowed him to score goals. Reading were a classic example of finding the right player to suit your style, or moulding a team around the ability of the players. We did neither with our strikers.

    So the sale to Cardiff was fairly explainable. Reading needed to sell and we offered good money. Agent buzzed in his ears "Hey Cardiff will pay decent wages, go there." Like any sensible employee he saw the money and came here. And he probably thought that Ole would play decent football for him but couldn't get it going. Chances dried up, his confidence dipped and the rest is history. Slade's tactics would never suit Le Fondre so he is quite right - he didn't stand a chance under Slade as it was long ball, and nobody was capable of threading a decent ball through for him other than Mats Moehler Dahli, who was about as flavour of the month to Slade as a turd sandwich.

    He was quite right when he said out style did not suit him, because he was one dimensional. But then again Slade didn't even have half a dimension himself. Awful combination one would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    I remember seeing Le Fondre when he was at Birmingham and thought his game was limited. He had a tendency to score goals when balls were threaded through for him to latch onto, and he was a confidence player. Like a cheap Michael Owen. Back to goal he had the strength of a intoxicated nat, not that strong in the air, not that great taking shots on a cross and had the first touch of a rapist. To Reading's credit they understood his strengths and weaknesses well, signed him, and played the football that allowed him to score goals. Reading were a classic example of finding the right player to suit your style, or moulding a team around the ability of the players. We did neither with our strikers.

    So the sale to Cardiff was fairly explainable. Reading needed to sell and we offered good money. Agent buzzed in his ears "Hey Cardiff will pay decent wages, go there." Like any sensible employee he saw the money and came here. And he probably thought that Ole would play decent football for him but couldn't get it going. Chances dried up, his confidence dipped and the rest is history. Slade's tactics would never suit Le Fondre so he is quite right - he didn't stand a chance under Slade as it was long ball, and nobody was capable of threading a decent ball through for him other than Mats Moehler Dahli, who was about as flavour of the month to Slade as a turd sandwich.

    He was quite right when he said out style did not suit him, because he was one dimensional. But then again Slade didn't even have half a dimension himself. Awful combination one would say.
    He's never played for Birmingham? It's wholly unfair to blame Slade for ALF's failures here as well, he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. You can blame Slade for a lot but Le Fondre had a plenty of chances and he hardly scored. His record since his spell here is testament to the fact he isn't actually that good. He missed two open goals during his spell here, for whatever reason it didn't work.

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    I donít remember him being a regular starter at Reading. For some reason Iíve got him as scoring a ton (if not most) of his goals off the bench. League 2 or 3 player for me even in his prime

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    I thought it was Birmingham for some reason. It was some team Northish before he signed for Reading, when he was on a scoring spree, sometime in the mid Noughties.

    If you have ever managed or coached football, you will know that strikers, unless blessed with great technical ability, typically needs a style that suits them and many are in the main, confidence players. I would just have to disagree that "just not that good", even if he was limited. He played for a few sides that scored goals before Reading as well as Reading and he was always popping up on television as a regular scorer. Clearly he could score goals. In my view his prior record confirms his ability to score. To me it was style issue, which then turned into a confidence issue. Why he never discovered his old form since could be anything. A minor injury which repeats (Sturridge), loss of motivation, poor diet or maybe poorly managed. It could be anything.

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    Watching Le Fondre and Ameobi last brought it all flooding back.
    They ran around for a bit, made a few tackles, passed it a few times etc - and that was about. Totally ineffective anywhere on the pitch. That maybe because they had no way of getting past us - but they didnt even seem to try.

    With those 2 in particular - wherever they go - it seems they are just there to pick up the money and couldnt give a toss about if they win or not. like footballers - that happen to be decent players - but dont love football.

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    Re: Le Fondre

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    I thought it was Birmingham for some reason. It was some team Northish before he signed for Reading, when he was on a scoring spree, sometime in the mid Noughties.

    If you have ever managed or coached football, you will know that strikers, unless blessed with great technical ability, typically needs a style that suits them and many are in the main, confidence players. I would just have to disagree that "just not that good", even if he was limited. He played for a few sides that scored goals before Reading as well as Reading and he was always popping up on television as a regular scorer. Clearly he could score goals. In my view his prior record confirms his ability to score. To me it was style issue, which then turned into a confidence issue. Why he never discovered his old form since could be anything. A minor injury which repeats (Sturridge), loss of motivation, poor diet or maybe poorly managed. It could be anything.
    Was the Northish team Stockport, or Rochdale or Rotherham... or all of them?

    I remember when ALF was with Rotherham he had the reputation of a selfish, often lazy, goal poacher. He scored about 1 goal in 3 games and made his name, but was always limited and did very little else for the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    I thought it was Birmingham for some reason. It was some team Northish before he signed for Reading, when he was on a scoring spree, sometime in the mid Noughties.

    If you have ever managed or coached football, you will know that strikers, unless blessed with great technical ability, typically needs a style that suits them and many are in the main, confidence players. I would just have to disagree that "just not that good", even if he was limited. He played for a few sides that scored goals before Reading as well as Reading and he was always popping up on television as a regular scorer. Clearly he could score goals. In my view his prior record confirms his ability to score. To me it was style issue, which then turned into a confidence issue. Why he never discovered his old form since could be anything. A minor injury which repeats (Sturridge), loss of motivation, poor diet or maybe poorly managed. It could be anything.
    Thanks for the patronising pat on the head. He's been poor for all clubs since he left us, bar a good four month spell at Bolton. He missed tap ins. He was totally ineffective for us, devoid of confidence and that's spilled over into his career. For whatever reason, he's not good enough at this level and he hasn't been for quite some time.

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