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We've been in the Championship virtually continuously for fifteen years and I can honestly say that, the awful 14/15 season apart, I never got bored with it - I wonder how many would be able to say something similar after we had spent fourteen out of the next fifteen season in the Premier League?
But over that time we have been aspiring and trying to get into the Premier League every year and have come close on a number of occasions and actually made it twice. Thats why its generally been enjoyable/exciting. If we stay in the Prem for the same amount of time, we will be an established Premier League team and rather than trying just to stay there, we will be trying to win it and get into Europe. Why would that be boring ?.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
i admire your optimism but we’ve as much chance of competing in this league in its present form as I have of traveling to the moon. If you want to see us competing to win things you’ll have to wait for us to drop down a league again.
I agree that next season is going to be very difficult, as would the season after if we survived but the point I was making, in reply to your post particularly, was that if we stayed in the Premier League for a long length of time (say five years plus) then our outlook and goals would alter considerably, as we would then be an established Prem side and would have at least another £500m in the bank. Why couldnt we then compete in the top eight and try to get into Europe ?. Thats the whole point of supporting a club isnt it ?. To see them improve and compete at a higher level. Its almost as if some people want them to fail in the next couple of seasons and go back down. After all teams like Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City havent always been top level clubs have they - they started at lower levels and built up over many years. In my football memory, Man City were in the third tier and Man Utd in the second tier. Liverpool were in the second tier in the fifties/early sixties. I bet their fans aren't longing for a return to the Championship, so that they can 'enjoy' their football again !!.
I am realistic about our chances next year and thereafter but that doesnt stop me dreaming about success. Thats why I follow City.
Leicester and Burnley means that's bollocks.
Leicester was a freak. I don’t consider that Burnley were competing. They were the best of the rest
Hidden in the background of this thread is the fundamental question of what and who we are as supporters. Having been brought up kicking a ball in the streets, jumpers for goalposts, pick the grit out of your knees when you fall over/wipe the blood off and carry on generation, progressing to checking the local park pitches for broken bottles/dog turds before KO, to travelling up and down the country sometimes watching us win, in the past more likely to lose, I can identify more with the "blood and guts" of the Championship (and the teams we play) than the overpaid and pampered PL. That's why Warnock is such a good fit for us. Never met him but looking at his interviews and, indeed, where the pre-seasons are, I'm sure he thinks along the same lines. If we were to stay in the PL for many seasons to come, our fan base would evolve and become more used to the very different world of the PL and move away, albeit subconsciously, from what many people enjoy now as being a City fan. Playing in Europe is a pipe dream, maybe for the next generation of supporters. Would I like to see us drop down to Division 2, of course not. Happier and more interested playing Championship football..... yes.... except the club would struggle financially. So, at least one season in the PL awaits. The quest for 40 points begins. First though..... Tavistock/Bodmin and Torquay away.
I"ll miss the Championship like a hole in the head.
We have to aspire to improve each season. Otherwise we'll have to read thread after thread about attendance's.
Is playing in Europe really that much of a pipe dream? Burnley are in it next season.
The past 10 years have seen; Fulham, Swansea, Leicester, Boro, Wigan and Stoke all play in Europe. So it's hardly outside the realms of possibility that one of the promoted sides get into europe in the next 3 years.
I bet if you asked Palace, Huddersfield, Newcastle, Southampton and Watford fans they won't have been bored with being in the top flight even now.
I love playing in the Championship and would have no issue with us being relegated but I think a few people seem to be full of clichés of the players one league above being pampered whilst the championship players aren't. Our players still make around at least 10k A WEEK ffs and split 10 million between them for getting promoted.
Looks like the ‘cheaper ‘ ones at th back of 513 and 515 have sold out.
About 80 left in the main bowl and appx 600 ish in the Upper Ninian left.
Looking good !
Loads left at Brizzies and Elland road ,will all the plastics be giving up Sky subscriptions this year?
Doubt if we’d have £500 million in the bank, transfer fees & wages would see to that. Villa were in the top flight for years, they’d love to have £5 million in the bank at the moment. We’d need the generate income outside of the tv riches. That’s what sets the top 5/6 apart, the money seems to be rolling in to them left, right & centre & the tv money is a nice bonus.
You know when I said we were averaging a whopping 13 season tickets per day? Well get this, the past few days we have been averaging a staggering wait for it....31 season tickets a day!
31!!
...what has my life come to.
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On this subject… http://www.viewfromtheninian.com/201...uropes-top-50/
We have nowhere near the population of what is generally known as greater Newcastle which is touching 1 million ...........Sunderland has a greater population that Newcastle but it's catchment area is tiny
In Newcastle you can get the underground from ten miles out in the suburbs to start James park in five minutes
We have a similar UDZ to those two cities Sludge , which includes Newport , the population Cardiff can consider within their catchment area is close to 1m.
Newcastle and Sunderland are also within 12 miles of each other
SuperDad is right, we have a catchment population of well over a million and Newcastle’s million includes Sunderland! The city of Cardiff also has a greater population than Newcastle,fact! and they pull in 52k regularly?
One side has a history of top flight football and world class footballers whilst the other has one of hooliganism and disappointment it’s hardly suprising they have a bigger crowd than Cardiff.
Wales is also perceived to be a rugby loving nation whilst in Newcastle the football has always played a pivitol role for the locals and businesses of the area.
We’ll never get 60,000 seats in the ground. I know that was the original intent but the design was changed in that we put far fewer seats in be bowl than planned. We have 33,000ish now, are you going to fit another 27,000 seats above the Canton and Grange ends ? Could possibly get between 40,000 - 45,000 though, which would be more than enough for a city the size of Cardiff.
Just adding tiers to both ends behind the goal would take capacity up to around the 40k mark. Then they could fill in the corners for an extra 14-16k seats and then finally extend the length of the top tier of the grandstand to complete the bowl for a final capacity of around 60k.
It would look something like in the link below (we can but dream eh?).
https://ibb.co/nkuQXy
I doubt anything over 45,000 would get passed by planning as the club would have to put in more exits and widen the surrounding roads etc
For sure, its bad enough down there as it is. Anyway, back to reality...a load of tickets have just become available on e ticketing, including one additional block in the top tier of the Ninian.
What’s the latest sales now these have been released ?
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