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We've been in the Championship virtually continuously for fifteen years and I can honestly say that, the awful 14/15 season apart, I never got bored with it - I wonder how many would be able to say something similar after we had spent fourteen out of the next fifteen season in the Premier League?
But over that time we have been aspiring and trying to get into the Premier League every year and have come close on a number of occasions and actually made it twice. Thats why its generally been enjoyable/exciting. If we stay in the Prem for the same amount of time, we will be an established Premier League team and rather than trying just to stay there, we will be trying to win it and get into Europe. Why would that be boring ?.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
i admire your optimism but we’ve as much chance of competing in this league in its present form as I have of traveling to the moon. If you want to see us competing to win things you’ll have to wait for us to drop down a league again.
I agree that next season is going to be very difficult, as would the season after if we survived but the point I was making, in reply to your post particularly, was that if we stayed in the Premier League for a long length of time (say five years plus) then our outlook and goals would alter considerably, as we would then be an established Prem side and would have at least another £500m in the bank. Why couldnt we then compete in the top eight and try to get into Europe ?. Thats the whole point of supporting a club isnt it ?. To see them improve and compete at a higher level. Its almost as if some people want them to fail in the next couple of seasons and go back down. After all teams like Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City havent always been top level clubs have they - they started at lower levels and built up over many years. In my football memory, Man City were in the third tier and Man Utd in the second tier. Liverpool were in the second tier in the fifties/early sixties. I bet their fans aren't longing for a return to the Championship, so that they can 'enjoy' their football again !!.
I am realistic about our chances next year and thereafter but that doesnt stop me dreaming about success. Thats why I follow City.
Leicester and Burnley means that's bollocks.
Leicester was a freak. I don’t consider that Burnley were competing. They were the best of the rest
We will be the 10th best supported team in the Premiership next season averaging approx 32k, we were 13th last time despite being coming bottom. If we can establish ourselves in the Premier League, Tan would slowly increase the Stadium capacity to 60k and we would then be able to challenge the big 6. We are the Capital of Wales,and have the fourth biggest catchment area in the Premier League at present after London,Manchester and Liverpool who all have more than one team. We are a bigger city than Newcastle Leicester,Southampton etc so why can’t we get back into European competitions!
Hidden in the background of this thread is the fundamental question of what and who we are as supporters. Having been brought up kicking a ball in the streets, jumpers for goalposts, pick the grit out of your knees when you fall over/wipe the blood off and carry on generation, progressing to checking the local park pitches for broken bottles/dog turds before KO, to travelling up and down the country sometimes watching us win, in the past more likely to lose, I can identify more with the "blood and guts" of the Championship (and the teams we play) than the overpaid and pampered PL. That's why Warnock is such a good fit for us. Never met him but looking at his interviews and, indeed, where the pre-seasons are, I'm sure he thinks along the same lines. If we were to stay in the PL for many seasons to come, our fan base would evolve and become more used to the very different world of the PL and move away, albeit subconsciously, from what many people enjoy now as being a City fan. Playing in Europe is a pipe dream, maybe for the next generation of supporters. Would I like to see us drop down to Division 2, of course not. Happier and more interested playing Championship football..... yes.... except the club would struggle financially. So, at least one season in the PL awaits. The quest for 40 points begins. First though..... Tavistock/Bodmin and Torquay away.
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