Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
OK. So what defines a top international side?

England got further in this tournament than Germany, Belgium and Spain, and went out at the same stage as Brazil, Portugal and the Netherlands. So if they're not top international sides, who is? Just the four left in?
I didn't say they weren't a top side.

Just that they don't beat the other top ones.

Personally I think they have good, but over hyped players, a bang average manager and are flat track bullies.