Originally Posted by
blue matt
This is the issue we have over here in the UK, we do not celebrate raising children in the right way ( but quick enough to play down the job ), Sludge just about sums it up with his opinion, he is right, its not a achievement to have children ( though speak to a childless couple who desperately want them and they might disagree )
BUT
Raising decent / great / successful children is, the world needs more decent people, it takes a father to do it, Im proud as hell of my kids, ive worked hard to push them in the right direction to hopefully improve the world ( in even the smallest way ) when they do finally leave the nest I will look back and say " yea, we did ok with them, they had all the time and guidance then needed from me and my wife " ( not all can say that ) so that imho is a achievement