Net Zero....

[Heathblue]

Re: Net Zero....

When you had your brain problems

Did you listen to the medical people or listen to nutters ?

you're being a silly billy now incidentally the medical people whilst being brilliant did initially diagnose me incorrectly!!, I was three days away from a brain operation of which i had to agree to a disclaimer if it went pear shaped and i didn't wake up, it was the radiologist who twigged the incorrect diagnosis.

[JamesWales]

Re: Net Zero....

Missed the point . What I saw was the self styled Mr Reasonable yet again making himself look ridiculous by defending the indefensible.

The fact that you see the slight rowing back of green policies, when nearly every country is doing it, as being indefensible shows how open minded you view political debate.

It's your view, or it's 'indefensible'.

I didn't even defend it either, I just provided some context from elsewhere. I know you want to live in a mythical world where the world revolves around the UK govt, but the reality is different. Big world out there!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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you're being a silly billy now incidentally the medical people whilst being brilliant did initially diagnose me incorrectly!!, I was three days away from a brain operation of which i had to agree to a disclaimer if it went pear shaped and i didn't wake up, it was the radiologist who twigged the incorrect diagnosis.

No I am searching for your MO

The radiologist , a highly trained medical professional found out that it wasn't a brain tumour ......and thank feck for that

So you believed a highly trained medical professional in this respect but are part of the Beverly Hillbillies crew when it comes to covid and climate change ?

If I want my car serviced I go to a garage and if a scientist and in the case of climate change almost every scientist out there says this is bad fecking news I tend to side with them not the bloke who fixes my car and thinks its all a conspiracy

As you were

[az city]

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I'm sure most of us would rather have Heathblues grammar rather than your absolutely shocking social skills!

Nonetheless, I'll bite. What nutjob views have I expressed here? (Other than daring to have a moderately different opinion to the Father the Son and the Holy AZ, which is how you seem to see yourself)

I merely offered an explanation of what he's doing politically and illustrated it with an example from France - oh, and here's one from Germany too, to further back up my point.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/will-germany-be-the-first-to-ditch-its-net-zero-commitments/

Unfortunately govts across the west are rowing back on the pace of environmental change and that's the reality. You can label someone a nutjob for citing articles that refer to the UK, French and German govts if you want, but it's a pretty ironic exercise to engage in.

The comment wasn't directed at you. Are you and Heathblue one and the same then? Thank feck for that - one less crazy.

You're clueless on Sunak's motivation. I think you're doing your standard Tory-light BS. And you know it.

If you want "social skills" on an internet message board full of batshit crazies, you'll be wanting a very long time.

Go and play with your kids.

[Heathblue]

Re: Net Zero....

No I am searching for your MO

The radiologist , a highly trained medical professional found out that it wasn't a brain tumour ......and thank feck for that

So you believed a highly trained medical professional in this respect but are part of the Beverly Hillbillies crew when it comes to covid and climate change ?

If I want my car serviced I go to a garage and if a scientist and in the case of climate change almost every scientist out there says this is bad fecking news I tend to side with them not the bloke who fixes my car and thinks its all a conspiracy

As you were

This is an easy one

After numerous MRI & CT scans, I and my family were shown a mass in my brain on a PC, in colour in the reception area of the ward. It was the 'O' **** moment, how long do I have.

Covid, this is the illness which, for many you have to told you have it using a test that wasn't by the words of its inventor for this illness and was amplified above the recommended cycle range for its intended use.

Johnson and his cronies then went on TV every night (I was as keen to listen) to scare the b'Jesus out of the population with the number of cases and then the death count. 30,000 plus p/a, FLU related deaths disappeared, and from memory I'm not checking, around the same amount of COVID deaths are recorded, it also became knowledge that if you fell out of a plane but tested positive using an inappropriate test whilst lying dead on the ground, that you didn't die from the fall from 30,000 feet but from Covid, this was being repeated in lockstep throughout the world.
Ivy league and world published peer reviewed doctors who went against the narrative were censored and shut down, the 1st Doctor who caught my attention was Vernon Coleman, years ago he was the BBC's Hillary Jones the go to guy when the beeb wanted an opinion, when he started his old man in a chair series he was immediately jumped on and his reputation trashed on Wiki, you only have to use the way back machine, he was, and before the American superstar doctors, the 1st to call out the potential injuries that some would be facing because of taking an experimental Vaccine, a vaccine that could only be licenced in an emergency if no other treatment was available, Coleman also expressed outrage at the use of Ventilators, Remdesivir as treatments and has since been vindicated, he was the 1st to warn of Myocarditis and Pericarditis and again has been vindicated, i know nothing about these illnesses but he does so it was worth a read, but what really caught my eye was that he was also predicting auto immune problems and specifically named, "Guillain Barre Syndrome" which is something I had and was more frightening due to me being only 22 and having just had our 1st child) than the brain Injury, obviously Coleman lost his YouTube channel Brand New tube kept him going for a few months but even they ended up censoring him, it was only after Coleman that the American boys Malone, McCullough and a few others came onto my radar but being American, always making a buck seems to be the most important criteria so whilst their credentials are impeccable, McCullough being one of the most peer reviewed doctors in the world I couldn't go all in with these guys, by chance I then came across an interview on the highwire by Del Bigtree with Geert van den Bossche, again a no one to me at the time but a short bit of research will tell you he knows his shit and was considered a world leading expert in his field, and he was adamant that you do not mass vaccinate during a pandemic, just consider world leading experts are warning about blood clots, I have a major blood clot and probably always will have so i was looking for every bit of info i could get, Johnson and his team every night on the box and other experts online, my local doctor was very hesitant in any recommendation, 2.5 years ago I was approached by the medical profession to ask if I would be a case for an article in the British Medical Journal and agreed but I used this contact for advice of Vaccination again, no recommendation, (incidentally via this publication I have obtained my Brain scans, some on here have seen them, whilst this is going on I then frequently read on social media not deliberately but just how it threads, ***** like Piers Morgan basically saying that I’m murdering your granny and should be locked up with all human rights removed, faced with losing my job and thus the ability to support myself and family if the gestapo got their way, during all this bollox we had the mask debate, I’m not going there, the hydroxychloroquine, chlorine dioxide and ivermectin debacle, again not going there it’s all he said she said and you’ll be on the side of your confirmation bias. My confirmation bias is that it was a manufactured pandemic and slowly its being dripped out that it was but it’s no point arguing over this as time will tell.
So, you see, I do not consider my views of the Beverly Hillbillies crew, my views are considered of my life journey and personal circumstances, we all have different circumstances and journeys and act accordingly.


Climate, world in lock step, my 1st car was a brown Mini, (MRW 752F) I even changed the rear sub-frame on this car, on blocks outside my Grans house!!! I used to clean this car with oxalic acid because of the “ACID RAIN” and ever since have had to put up with climate fanatics telling me the world is doomed in 10 years, guess what ?, we are still here 40 years on so yes, that’s it, no more on this rubbish, if it pacifies you, I did say that my next car was going to be the most pollutive diesel I could get, however, I did go into the dealers yesterday and asked him to price me up a hybrid so I might go with this option, doing my bit see butt, Charlie swans around in his private jet lecturing, I’m considering an extra 10K to do my bit for the planet.

I shit post on here deliberately to annoy the Climate experts on Monday to become Medical experts on Tuesday to become Air crash investigator experts on Wednesday and so on, they get so wrapped in their anger I’m sure Dookies going to fall off the edge of the ice wall around the edge of the earth such is his outrage and demand that I agree with his theory of the earth.

A special mention for AZ, I’m on my PC, a review has given me 100% for grammar and spelling, so if there is a problem have a word with Mr. Gates.

Being on the PC and reading the above rubbish back to myself, their is an error which i have not corrected, so I'll be emailing Billy boy!!!

AZ.jpg

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Net Zero....

This is an easy one

After numerous MRI & CT scans, I and my family were shown a mass in my brain on a PC, in colour in the reception area of the ward. It was the 'O' **** moment, how long do I have.

Covid, this is the illness which, for many you have to told you have it using a test that wasn't by the words of its inventor for this illness and was amplified above the recommended cycle range for its intended use.

Johnson and his cronies then went on TV every night (I was as keen to listen) to scare the b'Jesus out of the population with the number of cases and then the death count. 30,000 plus p/a, FLU related deaths disappeared, and from memory I'm not checking, around the same amount of COVID deaths are recorded, it also became knowledge that if you fell out of a plane but tested positive using an inappropriate test whilst lying dead on the ground, that you didn't die from the fall from 30,000 feet but from Covid, this was being repeated in lockstep throughout the world.
Ivy league and world published peer reviewed doctors who went against the narrative were censored and shut down, the 1st Doctor who caught my attention was Vernon Coleman, years ago he was the BBC's Hillary Jones the go to guy when the beeb wanted an opinion, when he started his old man in a chair series he was immediately jumped on and his reputation trashed on Wiki, you only have to use the way back machine, he was, and before the American superstar doctors, the 1st to call out the potential injuries that some would be facing because of taking an experimental Vaccine, a vaccine that could only be licenced in an emergency if no other treatment was available, Coleman also expressed outrage at the use of Ventilators, Remdesivir as treatments and has since been vindicated, he was the 1st to warn of Myocarditis and Pericarditis and again has been vindicated, i know nothing about these illnesses but he does so it was worth a read, but what really caught my eye was that he was also predicting auto immune problems and specifically named, "Guillain Barre Syndrome" which is something I had and was more frightening due to me being only 22 and having just had our 1st child) than the brain Injury, obviously Coleman lost his YouTube channel Brand New tube kept him going for a few months but even they ended up censoring him, it was only after Coleman that the American boys Malone, McCullough and a few others came onto my radar but being American, always making a buck seems to be the most important criteria so whilst their credentials are impeccable, McCullough being one of the most peer reviewed doctors in the world I couldn't go all in with these guys, by chance I then came across an interview on the highwire by Del Bigtree with Geert van den Bossche, again a no one to me at the time but a short bit of research will tell you he knows his shit and was considered a world leading expert in his field, and he was adamant that you do not mass vaccinate during a pandemic, just consider world leading experts are warning about blood clots, I have a major blood clot and probably always will have so i was looking for every bit of info i could get, Johnson and his team every night on the box and other experts online, my local doctor was very hesitant in any recommendation, 2.5 years ago I was approached by the medical profession to ask if I would be a case for an article in the British Medical Journal and agreed but I used this contact for advice of Vaccination again, no recommendation, (incidentally via this publication I have obtained my Brain scans, some on here have seen them, whilst this is going on I then frequently read on social media not deliberately but just how it threads, ***** like Piers Morgan basically saying that I’m murdering your granny and should be locked up with all human rights removed, faced with losing my job and thus the ability to support myself and family if the gestapo got their way, during all this bollox we had the mask debate, I’m not going there, the hydroxychloroquine, chlorine dioxide and ivermectin debacle, again not going there it’s all he said she said and you’ll be on the side of your confirmation bias. My confirmation bias is that it was a manufactured pandemic and slowly its being dripped out that it was but it’s no point arguing over this as time will tell.
So, you see, I do not consider my views of the Beverly Hillbillies crew, my views are considered of my life journey and personal circumstances, we all have different circumstances and journeys and act accordingly.


Climate, world in lock step, my 1st car was a brown Mini, (MRW 752F) I even changed the rear sub-frame on this car, on blocks outside my Grans house!!! I used to clean this car with oxalic acid because of the “ACID RAIN” and ever since have had to put up with climate fanatics telling me the world is doomed in 10 years, guess what ?, we are still here 40 years on so yes, that’s it, no more on this rubbish, if it pacifies you, I did say that my next car was going to be the most pollutive diesel I could get, however, I did go into the dealers yesterday and asked him to price me up a hybrid so I might go with this option, doing my bit see butt, Charlie swans around in his private jet lecturing, I’m considering an extra 10K to do my bit for the planet.

I shit post on here deliberately to annoy the Climate experts on Monday to become Medical experts on Tuesday to become Air crash investigator experts on Wednesday and so on, they get so wrapped in their anger I’m sure Dookies going to fall off the edge of the ice wall around the edge of the earth such is his outrage and demand that I agree with his theory of the earth.

A special mention for AZ, I’m on my PC, a review has given me 100% for grammar and spelling, so if there is a problem have a word with Mr. Gates.

Being on the PC and reading the above rubbish back to myself, their is an error which i have not corrected, so I'll be emailing Billy boy!!!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]5809[/ATTACH]

Vernon Coleman is a celebrity doctor 😷

Avoid

I side with science

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Net Zero....

Vernon Coleman is a celebrity doctor 😷

Avoid

I side with science

Yep , absolutely talk tv material

You could have your own show ?

[MOZZER2]

Re: Net Zero....

maybe it was a good idea for someone to tell China all about Net Zero !

CHINA - China opens its new coal transportation rail network.

100 new coal fired power stations to add to the 3095 all needed to provide the West with products, including solar panels.

So we can pretend we are carbon neutral.

pic.twitter.com/rGCuBZ49SB

— Elander & the News (@ElanderNews) October 5, 2023

[Rjk]

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maybe it was a good idea for someone to tell China all about Net Zero !

CHINA - China opens its new coal transportation rail network.

100 new coal fired power stations to add to the 3095 all needed to provide the West with products, including solar panels.

So we can pretend we are carbon neutral.

pic.twitter.com/rGCuBZ49SB

— Elander & the News (@ElanderNews) October 5, 2023

China have actually been taking some pretty impressive strides to achieving net zero, considering their developing economy and the fact that they are essentially the manufacturing base for most of the world.

Their target is 2060 instead of 2050 but they are currently overachieving in some areas such as conversion to wind and solar which accounts for 17% currently and will likely hit its 2030 target 5 years early.

They have invested massively in solar, they have more solar capacity than the rest of the world combined

[Doucas]

Re: Net Zero....

maybe it was a good idea for someone to tell China all about Net Zero !

CHINA - China opens its new coal transportation rail network.

100 new coal fired power stations to add to the 3095 all needed to provide the West with products, including solar panels.

So we can pretend we are carbon neutral.

pic.twitter.com/rGCuBZ49SB

— Elander & the News (@ElanderNews) October 5, 2023

This is disheartening but I believe they'll get there quicker than us.

Not that this matters, this September across the world was 1.8 degrees warmer than the pre industrial age average, a huge spike. I no longer believe it's decades before we see extremely serious consequences, I believe it is now years.

[JamesWales]

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Absolutely bonkers that some of you will praise China before the UK on decarbonisation etc. 🥴

[Rjk]

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Absolutely bonkers that some of you will praise China before the UK on decarbonisation etc. ��

I'm not praising China ahead of the UK, I just don't buy into the argument that you frequently see that China have built x number of new coal power stations there fore it is pointless us doing anything.

It would have been pretty easy for China to have ignored it and carried on regardless if they had wanted to - there's no green voters to seek to win over, or much pressure lobbyists or other countries can apply to get them to take these steps - yet they have taken really big steps - because they have huge issues building up with access to fresh water amongst other things that will only be exacerbated with climate change.

[JamesWales]

Re: Net Zero....

I'm not praising China ahead of the UK, I just don't buy into the argument that you frequently see that China have built x number of new coal power stations there fore it is pointless us doing anything.

It would have been pretty easy for China to have ignored it and carried on regardless if they had wanted to - there's no green voters to seek to win over, or much pressure lobbyists or other countries can apply to get them to take these steps - yet they have taken really big steps - because they have huge issues building up with access to fresh water amongst other things that will only be exacerbated with climate change.

Fair enough. Its right they are making rapid progress in some renewable areas but nothing like the progress we and others have made and the whole economic model they are based on is going to need to be rapidly changed.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Oh what jolly fun....

https://www.mylondon.news/news/how-much-you-know-ulez-27587091

[MOZZER2]

Re: Net Zero....

China have actually been taking some pretty impressive strides to achieving net zero, considering their developing economy and the fact that they are essentially the manufacturing base for most of the world.

Their target is 2060 instead of 2050 but they are currently overachieving in some areas such as conversion to wind and solar which accounts for 17% currently and will likely hit its 2030 target 5 years early.

They have invested massively in solar, they have more solar capacity than the rest of the world combined

your obviously reading it from a different script from me

those solar green energy panels are powered by coal !

they are laughing at us/ the west whilst we are told to drive 20mph to save the planet