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  • #16
    Re: Net Zero....

    Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
    Sunak with a big u turn today for the better ��
    another WEF puppet take it with a pinch of salt

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
      another WEF puppet take it with a pinch of salt
      The majority are, Rishi is currently Donald Ducked and in for a thrashing at the next election, its a major throw of the dice to retain power, I'd like to see Starmer say he'll reverse what Sunak did today meaning the next election would be an interesting yardstick for how the country really feels about Net Zero, virtue signalling on social media or the pound in the pocket. Who wins ? my car is up for renewal next month any slight doubt is removed, my next one will be hydrocarbon powered.

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      • #18
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        Scrapping the tax on eating meat and mandatory car sharing are very important too, oh wait they didn't exist in the first place.

        That was the biggest load of rambling nonsense I've ever heard and I listened to a lot of speeches by Boris Johnson so that is saying something.

        This whole charade is nothing more than a spin doctors last roll of the dice, pure desperation.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by life on mars View Post
          Top speech made a lot of sense
          Didn't hear his speech only the take aways on the news channels, time for SIR Keir to make the next election a referendum on net zero 👍has he got the bollox to do it ?.

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          • #20
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            Sunak’s good and clever speech managed to box in his predecessors i.e. Boris / May /Cameron / Labour the quote below was perfect :

            “ climate change committee has rightly said you don’t reach net zero just by wishing it, but that’s what previous governments have done, both Labour and Conservative.

            folk have very little money the Petrol / diesel car ban kills them great it now put back
            YEY Transition to heat pumps switch will be forced only when buying a new boiler, and from 2035.
            yey Boiler upgrade scheme grant upped to £7,500.
            yey Property energy efficiency requirements scrapped.
            yey Future 7-bin requirement scrapped.
            yey No new flight tax.
            yey No ban on oil and gas in the North Sea.
            Yey no ban on onshore wind is being lifted.

            Rishi’s next best quote : “I care about reaching Net Zero by 2050 but on the current path, we risk losing the consent of British people.


            My Quote :
            Net Zero is a better off persons go to , you cant shove people into something you must take them with you . Poorer folk will not be able to buying 14K heat pumps , top end cars , they relay on hand me downs cars from the better off .

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            • #21
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              Zelenski must have been “instructed” to chat about the environment , whilst prolonging the military industrial complex



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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                I have never said. I think the Earth is flat, you appear to be attributing this for me.
                I think climate change is BS you can quote me on this : 👍
                Just out of curiosity, what facts about human-induced climate change do you find troubling? If you need a reference to wrestle with in formulating your thoughts try: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-ass...-report-cycle/

                I quote from the summary document:

                "Human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gases, have unequivocally
                caused global warming, with global surface temperature reaching 1.1°C above 1850-1900
                in 2011-2020. Global greenhouse gas emissions have continued to increase, with unequal
                historical and ongoing contributions arising from unsustainable energy use, land use and
                land-use change, lifestyles and patterns of consumption and production across regions,
                between and within countries, and among individuals."

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                  Sunak’s good and clever speech managed to box in his predecessors i.e. Boris / May /Cameron / Labour the quote below was perfect :

                  “ climate change committee has rightly said you don’t reach net zero just by wishing it, but that’s what previous governments have done, both Labour and Conservative.

                  folk have very little money the Petrol / diesel car ban kills them great it now put back
                  YEY Transition to heat pumps switch will be forced only when buying a new boiler, and from 2035.
                  yey Boiler upgrade scheme grant upped to £7,500.
                  yey Property energy efficiency requirements scrapped.
                  yey Future 7-bin requirement scrapped.
                  yey No new flight tax.
                  yey No ban on oil and gas in the North Sea.
                  Yey no ban on onshore wind is being lifted.

                  Rishi’s next best quote : “I care about reaching Net Zero by 2050 but on the current path, we risk losing the consent of British people.


                  My Quote :
                  Net Zero is a better off persons go to , you cant shove people into something you must take them with you . Poorer folk will not be able to buying 14K heat pumps , top end cars , they relay on hand me downs cars from the better off .
                  Basically, people like you are the reason humanity is ****ed.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by az city View Post
                    Just out of curiosity, what facts about human-induced climate change do you find troubling? If you need a reference to wrestle with in formulating your thoughts try: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-ass...-report-cycle/

                    I quote from the summary document:

                    "Human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gases, have unequivocally
                    caused global warming, with global surface temperature reaching 1.1°C above 1850-1900
                    in 2011-2020. Global greenhouse gas emissions have continued to increase, with unequal
                    historical and ongoing contributions arising from unsustainable energy use, land use and
                    land-use change, lifestyles and patterns of consumption and production across regions,
                    between and within countries, and among individuals."
                    The whole shebang, one big grift, follow the money, I've seen, that reference previously. It's shite, cheers

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                      The whole shebang, one big grift, follow the money, I've seen, that reference previously. It's shite, cheers
                      Next time you visit Earth maybe you could brush up on your grammar.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Net Zero....

                        Originally posted by az city View Post
                        Next time you visit Earth maybe you could brush up on your grammar.
                        Is that it ?

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                          Is that it ?
                          Nothing more needed

                          You are completely Potty

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                            Nothing more needed

                            You are completely Potty
                            I know, i refuse to be controlled, I finish my job near Tory Cowbridge today, a few of lads know you, starting a new job back in a red district on Monday. If it was 2 years on I'd have looked to put my feet up and join the sick note Britain Brigade, however being working class outta Roath, Ely, Rumney and Splott have chosen to put some more PAYE into the system

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                            • #29
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                              Rishi Sunak v Robinson Interview

                              "Here are the facts... We've committed to reducing our emissions by 68 percent.

                              "Here are some of the other countries' targets: the EU - just 55 percent; Australia 45 percent; America 40 percent; Canada around 20 percent; New Zealand 18 percent.



                              Good interview in my books.

                              Mr Robinson mistakenly accused the PM of talking about "where we've been" rather than "where we're going".

                              Mr Sunak pointed out that the targets he just listed off are the 2030 targets, "so that's where we're going and we're going faster than anyone else".

                              The PM found it equally easy to defend his decision to push back the deadline on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars, telling Nick Robinson his arguments were "an easy thing to rebut".

                              Mr Robinson said EV manufacturers "will not have the incentive to invest".

                              "So if people want to talk about 'global leadership' those are the facts we should be dealing with."

                              Mr Sunak hit back in a blunt 10-point retort: "Well that's an easy thing to rebut. Because if you look at our target of 2035, it's completely aligned with pretty much every other major economy.

                              "France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Australia, Canada, California, New York, Massachusetts, Sweden.

                              "So in an industry that is global and integrated, it's very hard to argue that somehow, you know, we will be at a disadvantage when we're aligning our date with that of pretty much every other major country."

                              He added that given manufacturers operate globally and every other major country has gone with a target of 2035, the Government's new target "seems entirely sensible".

                              In the same interview, Mr Sunak argued Margaret Thatcher would have "agreed" with his approach to Net Zero targets, despite her being a trailblazer in telling the world about the need to look after the environment.

                              The PM joined his Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch in passionately defending the new policy approach this morning, with Ms Badenoch having a row on Sky News about whether poor Brits drive cars.

                              The Business Secretary accused Sky News's Jayne Secker of making "ludicrous" claims over net zero.

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                                I know, i refuse to be controlled, I finish my job near Tory Cowbridge today, a few of lads know you, starting a new job back in a red district on Monday. If it was 2 years on I'd have looked to put my feet up and join the sick note Britain Brigade, however being working class outta Roath, Ely, Rumney and Splott have chosen to put some more PAYE into the system
                                Same ere forged in Llanrummney , never been out of work , don't do sick , had house reprocessed when mortgages were of the wall at 9 % , divorced as a result of money pressures , did two jobs to recover and pay for the Court Administration Order ,there were days where id didn't eat , odd shop lift of milk and bread got me trough , you'd be surprised how many full un drink pints are left outside pubs ,did I give in nope .

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