Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

[Organ Morgan.]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Yes. He somehow forgot to mention, I can't think why, their own neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, the same one Putin has cited numerous times to help justify his Special Military Operation.

I think we are supposed to believe they are nice Nazis, ones who are cuddly and haven't a trace of anti-Semitism.

[life on mars]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

I wasn't trivialising it and I wasn't criticising you as you correctly used the past tense. In fact, I didn't know about it until you posted and I missed it myself.

Sorry

[life on mars]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

I have friends in Ukraine whose families have been in fear of their lives in the last year and from a real threat - whereas your paranoia projetcs threats involving black-eyed zombies and the like. Grow up.

I'd put planes in the air and call the little Russian fecks bluff

[life on mars]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

[QUOTE=Organ Morgan.;5396428]Yes. He somehow forgot to mention, I can't think why, their own neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, the same one Putin has cited numerous times to help justify his Special Military Operation.

I think we are supposed to believe they are nice Nazis, ones who are cuddly and haven't a trace of anti-Semitism.[/QUOTE

Well let's be fair both parties got history in persecution in the of Jews as has the most of Europe..

I do wonder after this Ukraine re arms itself and turns into a European type of Israel, always under threat from its neighbours, Donbas becomes Gaza, with militia attacks on its borders and discrete tit for tat killings.

[Organ Morgan.]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

[QUOTE=life on mars;5396482]

Yes. He somehow forgot to mention, I can't think why, their own neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, the same one Putin has cited numerous times to help justify his Special Military Operation.

I think we are supposed to believe they are nice Nazis, ones who are cuddly and haven't a trace of anti-Semitism.[/QUOTE

Well let's be fair both parties got history in persecution in the of Jews as has the most of Europe..

I do wonder after this Ukraine re arms itself and turns into a European type of Israel, always under threat from its neighbours, Donbas becomes Gaza, with militia attacks on its borders and discrete tit for tat killings.

It's all a show for us plebs. Putin's got more tucked away than our Vinnie. Here's a repost of mine from the other day. Since then we have witnessed the farce of 'brave' Biden walking Kiev streets with air raid sirens blaring when it was arranged with Putin that there'd be no bombing while he was there. Biden in the weeks and months before had claimed Russia had committed crimes against humanity there and Putin was an ogre, etc, who could never be trusted.

Then Biden had assurances he'd be safe from the same bloodthirsty dictator's rockets and said "rightio, that's good enough for me."

It's bullshit, isn't it?

Taking the figures in the opening post as accurate, many thousands of expendable Ukrainian and Russian nobodies have perished in the conflict while Putin, Zelensky and their political allies remain hale and hearty.

The fisticuffs thus far has been great business for arms manufacturers who'll make bank replacing what's been destroyed. Funeral directors, among others, have also been rubbing their hands with glee. When it's all done, those connected people from both sides will make a bundle from receiving bulging brown envelopes from those who will get the contracts for rebuilding work. And the none the wiser taxpayers of those countries, as always, will indirectly pay all the bills via extra taxation.

It's a great grift.

This is a book War is a Racket written decades ago by one of the USA's most decorated soldiers, Major General Smedley Butler, who came to realise how the con works. It's a very short read too in which he details who gets to profit from the misery of others.

Here's the first three paragraphs of it:-

- WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes. -

War is a Racket - https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Sorry

No need. I can see that my post was ambiguous.

[Organ Morgan.]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Zelensky was a comedian before receiving a presidential makeover.

pic.twitter.com/q0qYlQSBJM

— Rohit Rawal (@RohiRa007) February 26, 2023

[Organ Morgan.]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

[QUOTE=Organ Morgan.;5396489]

It's all a show for us plebs. Putin's got more tucked away than our Vinnie. Here's a repost of mine from the other day. Since then we have witnessed the farce of 'brave' Biden walking Kiev streets with air raid sirens blaring when it was arranged with Putin that there'd be no bombing while he was there. Biden in the weeks and months before had claimed Russia had committed crimes against humanity there and Putin was an ogre, etc, who could never be trusted.

Then Biden had assurances he'd be safe from the same bloodthirsty dictator's rockets and said "rightio, that's good enough for me."

It's bullshit, isn't it?

Taking the figures in the opening post as accurate, many thousands of expendable Ukrainian and Russian nobodies have perished in the conflict while Putin, Zelensky and their political allies remain hale and hearty.

The fisticuffs thus far has been great business for arms manufacturers who'll make bank replacing what's been destroyed. Funeral directors, among others, have also been rubbing their hands with glee. When it's all done, those connected people from both sides will make a bundle from receiving bulging brown envelopes from those who will get the contracts for rebuilding work. And the none the wiser taxpayers of those countries, as always, will indirectly pay all the bills via extra taxation.

It's a great grift.

This is a book War is a Racket written decades ago by one of the USA's most decorated soldiers, Major General Smedley Butler, who came to realise how the con works. It's a very short read too in which he details who gets to profit from the misery of others.

Here's the first three paragraphs of it:-

- WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes. -

War is a Racket - https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

It looks like Smedley Butler knew what he was on about in his book War is a Racket.

Not much has changed since 1935 when he wrote it.

Wall Street has its eyes set on Ukraine

Wall Street really wants to invest in Ukraine, and some of the top players are doing more than sniffing around at the prospects.

The world’s largest money-management firm BlackRock continues to hold high-level meetings with the government, including President Volodymyr Zelensky. JPMorgan recently had bankers on the ground scoping the situation as they dodged Russian missiles, I am told.

The country is ripe for massive private US investment to rebuild infrastructure destroyed in its conflict with Vladimir Putin. Zelensky is a rock star in the American *media; the country is valiantly fighting off a foreign invader. The people are educated and resilient, which means returns could be as good there as any place on the planet. Banker talk has a private investment fund at between $20 billion and $100 billion at some point in the future.

So what’s stopping the private money from coming in now? A war that shows no signs of ending anytime soon. Plus, for all of Zelensky’s obvious talents as a leader, he still hasn’t demonstrated an understanding — or possibly a willingness — to fight corruption on the scale necessary to make investors comfortable, bankers tell me.

The meetings between some of Wall Street’s top executives (think Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan and Larry Fink of BlackRock) and Ukraine officials over the past month didn’t garner the same *attention as President Biden’s surprise visit last week. The discussions have been going down mostly in private and without much fanfare when they conclude.

But they are revealing. The perilous nature of our continued engagement with this country doesn’t just involve a possible nuclear war with Russia but also an economic sinkhole if we’re not careful.

More - - https://nypost.com/2023/02/25/wall-s...ng-in-ukraine/

[TWGL1]

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Ukraine is literally the descendant of Russia it’s like if America went to war with Canada and Mexico or Sweden with Denmark.I don’t support either side and want the killing to stop , but it’s a very tricky geopolitical situation.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Ukraine is literally the descendant of Russia it’s like if America went to war with Canada and Mexico or Sweden with Denmark.I don’t support either side and want the killing to stop , but it’s a very tricky geopolitical situation.

Why is Ukraine a descendent of Russia? Kiev/Kyiv was established as one of the two major cities of the Rus, a people who emanated from Scandinavia.

[life on mars]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Ukraine fell to the Russian Empire under the reign of Catherine the Great in 1793
The right-bank Ukraine was annexed by Russia in the Second Partition of Poland.

It was Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth for an age 1569–1795 .

You can see why Poland dislikes Russia as its behaviour in that region is dreadful .

Cossacks ( is “adventurer” or “free man”) are not Russian they were Slavic Orthodox Christian people.

Russia's goal is simply about invading & controling ......

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Ukraine is literally the descendant of Russia it’s like if America went to war with Canada and Mexico or Sweden with Denmark.I don’t support either side and want the killing to stop , but it’s a very tricky geopolitical situation.

Is "America" a descendent of Mexico or is Mexico a descendant of "America" in this hypothesis?

[life on mars]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Ukraine is literally the descendant of Russia it’s like if America went to war with Canada and Mexico or Sweden with Denmark.I don’t support either side and want the killing to stop , but it’s a very tricky geopolitical situation.

Think they are descendants of Eastern Slavic and very much driven by religion

Ukraine was the center of the first eastern Slavic state, Kyivan Rus’, which during the 10th and 11th centuries was the largest and most powerful state in Europe. But it was weakened by internal quarrels and Mongol invasions. Various parts of what’s now Ukraine have at times been claimed by Russia, Poland, the Austrian Empire, Hungary, Romania and Czechoslovakia. Present boundaries were set in 1954, with the transfer of Crimea from the Soviet Union to Ukraine. Ukraine finally became independent in 1991. (In 2014, Crimea was illegally annexed by Russia.)

[life on mars]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Is "America" a descendent of Mexico or is Mexico a descendant of "America" in this hypothesis?

Are we Germans now , if yes we have won the world cup more than once ??

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Hopefully one minute silence observed by all .

Ukraine fell to the Russian Empire under the reign of Catherine the Great in 1793
The right-bank Ukraine was annexed by Russia in the Second Partition of Poland.

It was Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth for an age 1569–1795 .

You can see why Poland dislikes Russia as its behaviour in that region is dreadful .

Cossacks ( is “adventurer” or “free man”) are not Russian they were Slavic Orthodox Christian people.

Russia's goal is simply about invading & controling ......

Are Russians not considered to be predominantly Slavic?
Is Orthodox Christianity not the predominant religion in Russia?