Effective Covid Measures Implemented

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...453-7/fulltext

Lancet study

0.8 % - 4%
That could be a large number when testing 300k per day

I accept that there is a scope for error. I'm not saying that there isn't.

But 0.8%-4% is a little bit short of the 97% false positives that have been bandied about for the last few pages without any evidence.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

You're terrified of everything because you watch endless YouTube videos, for God's sake :hehe:

You'd be hiding under the bed before you could say H1N1.

[TWGL1]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

I accept that there is a scope for error. I'm not saying that there isn't.

But 0.8%-4% is a little bit short of the 97% false positives that have been bandied about for the last few pages without any evidence.

I think the high percentage error rate is apparently when a person can test positive two or three months after the initial infection, when they are basically asymptomatic and no risk at all.

No doubt the Covid Files will cover this in due course

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

You'd be hiding under the bed before you could say H1N1.

Hiding :sherlock:

Hi D ing :sherlock: :sherlock:

Hi D :sherlock: :sherlock: :sherlock:

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

I think the high percentage error rate is apparently when a person can test positive two or three months after the initial infection, when they are basically asymptomatic and no risk at all.

No doubt the Covid Files will cover this in due course

I can't speak to that. It's interesting though - so if you can give a source for that then I'd definitely give it a read.

All I'd really like to see sometime this side of Christmas is evidence of " PCR Pandemic: Ramp up PCR 'test' to 40-45 cycle yielding 97% false positives".

[jon1959]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

I think the high percentage error rate is apparently when a person can test positive two or three months after the initial infection, when they are basically asymptomatic and no risk at all.

No doubt the Covid Files will cover this in due course

Why do you claim that?

Being asymptomatic doesn't mean you are 'no risk at all'. At the height of Covid people with the virus but no symptoms were infecting others at only a marginally lower rate than those with symptoms.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00059-4/fulltext

If you mean they no longer had the virus 2-3 months after their infection and therefore have no symptoms, then yes - no risk. But 'asymptomatic' doesn't mean that.

[TWGL1]

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Why do you claim that?

Being asymptomatic doesn't mean you are 'no risk at all'. At the height of Covid people with the virus but no symptoms were infecting others at only a marginally lower rate than those with symptoms.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00059-4/fulltext

If you mean they no longer had the virus 2-3 months after their infection and therefore have no symptoms, then yes - no risk. But 'asymptomatic' doesn't mean that.

Asymptomatic people have a very low viral load, to me that suggests little risk, I’ve specifically quoted that as my own mother is asymptomatic right now and that is what I was told a few days ago.

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

Asymptomatic people have a very low viral load, to me that suggests little risk, I’ve specifically quoted that as my own mother is asymptomatic right now and that is what I was told a few days ago.

It's not what this study suggests.

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/76/1/61

"Asymptomatic individuals and symptomatic patients did not show any significant differences in the mean Ct values of the E (31.15 vs 31.43; p>0.99), RdRp (32.26 vs 32.93; p=0.92) and N (33.05 vs 33.28; p>0.99) genes.

Conclusion Approximately one-fifth of the individuals without severe symptoms were asymptomatic, and their viral loads were comparable to those in symptomatic patients."

Who told you differently, out of interest?

[TWGL1]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

It's not what this study suggests.

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/76/1/61

"Asymptomatic individuals and symptomatic patients did not show any significant differences in the mean Ct values of the E (31.15 vs 31.43; p>0.99), RdRp (32.26 vs 32.93; p=0.92) and N (33.05 vs 33.28; p>0.99) genes.

Conclusion Approximately one-fifth of the individuals without severe symptoms were asymptomatic, and their viral loads were comparable to those in symptomatic patients."

Who told you differently, out of interest?

I don’t discuss personal data regarding my family on line but I’m happy to discuss it with you face to face

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

I don’t discuss personal data regarding my family on line but I’m happy to discuss it with you face to face

I would believe you, except from the fact that you literally just told us that it was in relation to your mother being asymptomatic but now you won't tell me who told you "Asymptomatic people have a very low viral load" because it's "personal data regarding my family" when asked.

I think the personal data regarding your family is already out of the bag, sorry.

[TWGL1]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

Personal Data as in the source - you know what I meant I’m sure

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

Personal Data as in the source - you know what I meant I’m sure

I honestly didn't.

Ahh, okay. It was a family member that told you. I don't need to know if it was your uncle or a cousin. Case closed.

You might want to send them the article that I shared with you though - just in case they are telling lots of people that they have a low viral load because they are symptomatic and the risks of transmission are much lower :thumbup:

[TWGL1]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

I honestly didn't.

Ahh, okay. It was a family member that told you. I don't need to know if it was your uncle or a cousin. Case closed.

You might want to send them the article that I shared with you though - just in case they are telling lots of people that they have a low viral load because they are symptomatic and the risks of transmission are much lower :thumbup:

There is no need ,but they are not concerned, perhaps because of the vax roll out and levels of natural immunity

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

There is no need ,but they are not concerned, perhaps because of the vax roll out and levels of natural immunity

Of course not. Why would you correct a falsehood that could lead to a risk (however minor) to someone else's health.

[TWGL1]

Re: Effective Covid Measures Implemented

Of course not. Why would you correct a falsehood that could lead to a risk (however minor) to someone else's health.

I’ll seek further clarification , just to be safe , thanks for your concern, appreciate it