Welsh Independence

[TWGL1]

Fall in support for independence

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/fall-support-independence-must-a-26359340

[JamesWales]

Re: Welsh Independence

I sense we are past the peak conditions for independence movements, which austerity and the immediate post-brexit era and Covid probably provided fertile ground for.

I am absolutely loving the SNP meltdown at the moment. That's one party and politicians I have very little time for.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Welsh Independence

I sense we are past the peak conditions for independence movements, which austerity and the immediate post-brexit era and Covid probably provided fertile ground for.

I am absolutely loving the SNP meltdown at the moment. That's one party and politicians I have very little time for.

A collapse of the SNP vote will mean good news for Labour (I assume)?

[JamesWales]

Re: Welsh Independence

A collapse of the SNP vote will mean good news for Labour (I assume)?

Remains to be seen if it collapses. I suspect it wont though it will probably fall and that will benefit Labour more than any others.

[Hilts]

Re: Welsh Independence

Ive always been strongly anti independence. Anything to not have a far right Govt like this again though.

[Dorcus]

Re: Welsh Independence

Ive always been strongly anti independence. Anything to not have a far right Govt like this again though.

My thoughts exactly. If we can get Labour in I won't give tuppence for independence. Id like to see a strong, unified, left wing UK playing it's part in improving the World.

[JamesWales]

Re: Welsh Independence

Ive always been strongly anti independence. Anything to not have a far right Govt like this again though.

You are in luck. Simply open your eyes and awake from your dream and kazzam! No far-right govt. Phew!

[JamesWales]

Re: Welsh Independence

My thoughts exactly. If we can get Labour in I won't give tuppence for independence. Id like to see a strong, unified, left wing UK playing it's part in improving the World.

UK is one of the biggest aid doners in the world. We are contributing greatly to facing down Putin and we are one of the fastest decarbonising nations in the west. Does that not count?

[Dorcus]

Re: Welsh Independence

UK is one of the biggest aid doners in the world. We are contributing greatly to facing down Putin and we are one of the fastest decarbonising nations in the west. Does that not count?

Only marginally, so very much more to be done. A change of government would help enormously.

[JamesWales]

Re: Welsh Independence

Only marginally, so very much more to be done. A change of government would help enormously.

On the three things I mentioned, I doubt that very much.

I think if we have a new government, you may end up being very disappointed! Ain't that the truth with all governments I suppose?!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Welsh Independence

Welsh independence is an even more stupid idea that Scottish

Fantasy nonsense

[Rjk]

Re: Welsh Independence

Welsh independence is an even more stupid idea that Scottish

Fantasy nonsense

I disagree.

100 years ago people would have said the same about an independent Ireland - then the poorest part of the UK.
now richer than the UK.
if it hadn't have become independent there is no way I would believe that it wouldn't be the poorest part of the UK still today.


if it stays within the UK, Wales will always get the shitty end of the stick

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Welsh Independence

I disagree.

100 years ago people would have said the same about an independent Ireland - then the poorest part of the UK.
now richer than the UK.
if it hadn't have become independent there is no way I would believe that it wouldn't be the poorest part of the UK still today.


if it stays within the UK, Wales will always get the shitty end of the stick

Ireland is technically richer than the UK, but the overall cost of living is 20% higher - food 25%, housing 35%.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Welsh Independence

I don't want to be a bearer of bad news, but! nobody knows where the heck Wales is outside of GB. I have on hundreds of occasions had point to out where we are on a map to non Brits. Nobody gives a feck

[Dorcus]

Re: Welsh Independence

I don't want to be a bearer of bad news, but! nobody knows where the heck Wales is outside of GB. I have on hundreds of occasions had point to out where we are on a map to non Brits. Nobody gives a feck

We just as well say let's have Independence for Monmouthshire, Glamorgan, Cardiff or the Isle of Wight.