Artificial Intelligence

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Artificial Intelligence

While Organ Maudlin whitters on about clotshots, black-eyed zombies and overnight magnetic pole shifts there are very serious concerns about the environment, climate, our personal data being hacked and accessed by malevolent parties and security services, our being manipulated by Google algorithms and the like as well as the misuse of AI in general.

[TWGL1]

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Lots of people will lose jobs as they become less efficient and obsolete compared to what replaces them.

Which is nothing new. Farmhands sowed fields with tools and by hand before being replaced by cattle pulling heavy machinery which was in turn replaced with tractors pulling machines stuffed with electronics and computers to sow fields at the maximum efficiency.

How many people and how many hours did it take to build a car in a factory in 1923 compared to 2023?

There is a difference this time potentially. Previously improvements in technology would tend to take jobs away from the working class. With AI, I think it’ll disproportionately affect higher income white collar professions. Bankers, analysts, coders, marketing, etc.

With AI, in theory, it’s a lot easier to replace people who sit at a desk and spend 8 hours at a computer compared to bar staff, cleaners, shopkeepers, bin men, cabbies, builders, etc.

Bar staff will soon be a thing of the past what with all the self serving facilities being installed ,they are even having them down the City next season.

[Doucas]

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I'm excited by it but also wary.

I'm excited in the way that we need it to solve our major problems e.g producing clean energy on mass, climate change etc.

I'm also very aware a lot of us could be without jobs, under our current economic and political order it will just lead to a tiny amount of incredibly wealthy people while the rest of us suck eggs and fight for the scraps.

[TWGL1]

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I'm excited by it but also wary.

I'm excited in the way that we need it to solve our major problems e.g producing clean energy on mass, climate change etc.

I'm also very aware a lot of us could be without jobs, under our current economic and political order it will just lead to a tiny amount of incredibly wealthy people while the rest of us suck eggs and fight for the scraps.

AI and assumptions is not a new thing though , its being going on since at least the 1950’s for computers , they just use more up to date technology to predict outcomes , which more often than not are way out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_artificial_intelligence

[tforturton]

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I'm convinced that half the posts on here are written by AI.

[Brizzlebluebirds]

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I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that

[PontBlue]

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AI and Robotics will replace lots of jobs. Even building sites are predicted to be largely human free by the 50s and there's already a robot bricky much quicker than any human and won't knock off at 4pm.

In the short term people working with AI will shrink the needed workforce.

Problems will arise when AI are allowed to rewrite themselves, generate other AI and build things via robotics without human oversight.

It's why universal basic income will become necessary as there won't be enough jobs for everyone.

[pipster]

SludgeGPT

Google and Amazon smart speakers are AI of a kind ?

They really piss me off

Ive been using SludgeGPT but it's way out of date though , but I guess, it really is artificial intelligence in its purest form.

[TWGL1]

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AI and Robotics will replace lots of jobs. Even building sites are predicted to be largely human free by the 50s and there's already a robot bricky much quicker than any human and won't knock off at 4pm.

In the short term people working with AI will shrink the needed workforce.

Problems will arise when AI are allowed to rewrite themselves, generate other AI and build things via robotics without human oversight.

It's why universal basic income will become necessary as there won't be enough jobs for everyone.

Your last sentence is spot on.

[WJ99mobile]

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It’s certainly a concern but was always going to happen.

No way of putting it back in its box and let’s hope it’s used for good

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Your last sentence is spot on.

I agree

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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No way of putting it back in its box and let’s hope it’s used for good

That's a key point. Bill Gates' thoughts on it are interesting - "market forces won’t naturally produce AI products and services that help the poorest. The opposite is more likely. With reliable funding and the right policies, governments and philanthropy can ensure that AIs are used to reduce inequity."

https://www.gatesnotes.com/The-Age-of-AI-Has-Begun

[Rjk]

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there was a really interesting podcast about how the rise of AI in chess.

self taught AI bots really quickly overtook the human and human programmed chess computers, and found completely different strategies that seemed crazy at first even to chess grandmasters, but now they are utterly untouchable

[ToTaL ITK]

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Get this new AI working hard on getting buses and trains to run on time , then i will be impressed

[Rjk]

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Get this new AI working hard on getting buses and trains to run on time , then i will be impressed

you don't need artificial intelligence for that, just invest properly in public transport.

there are plenty of countries that manage to do it properly