The Manics

[NYCBlue]

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You are on your own here then. Nothing wrong with that as it's only a generally accepted label. This video traces the path to shoegaze and it's backed up in the comments by a member of the Pale Saints. Funnily enough, I like most of these bands including the wall of sound stuff and Husker Du.

Before Loveless: How Shoegaze Became Shoegaze

Swervedriver actually remind me of Husker Du a little bit.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I can dig heavier stuff like MBV and the guitar festivals of Spacemen 3 and Spiritualised

But the namby pamby indie lite stuff can naff off

[AfricanBluebird]

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I can dig heavier stuff like MBV and the guitar festivals of Spacemen 3 and Spiritualised

But the namby pamby indie lite stuff can naff off

MBV were the loudest band I've ever seen live. Loveless is fantastic.

Spiritualised & Spacemen 3 also excellent.

The Jesus and Mary Chain reign supreme from the genre, of course. I am partial to the Wedding Present.. Ear piercing.

I think all had some energy, noise and authenticity that others didn't have. I probably wouldn't call them shoegaze.

Sludge ia right though, many of the later so called shoegaze bands were just awful and on par with all those awful britpop nonsense bands. One or two crept through with some great tunes and proper heavy guitar and booming bass, but so many were 'meh'.

Not shoegaze, but a special mention to 'James' .. Wonderful live and the later stuff really plays well live. 'Curse curse' is a very funny and uplifting tune.

Ill be travelling and will miss Queens of the Stone Age next month in Cardiff castle.. Great live band.

[Fatty Thornton]

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MBV were the loudest band I've ever seen live. Loveless is fantastic.

Spiritualised & Spacemen 3 also excellent.

The Jesus and Mary Chain reign supreme from the genre, of course. I am partial to the Wedding Present.. Ear piercing.

I think all had some energy, noise and authenticity that others didn't have. I probably wouldn't call them shoegaze.

Sludge ia right though, many of the later so called shoegaze bands were just awful and on par with all those awful britpop nonsense bands. One or two crept through with some great tunes and proper heavy guitar and booming bass, but so many were 'meh'.

Not shoegaze, but a special mention to 'James' .. Wonderful live and the later stuff really plays well live. 'Curse curse' is a very funny and uplifting tune.

Ill be travelling and will miss Queens of the Stone Age next month in Cardiff castle.. Great live band.

I saw James with a live orchestra back in April, in the St Davids Hall - wonderful experience. Also going to QOTSA in the castle, I am very much looking forward to that!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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MBV were the loudest band I've ever seen live. Loveless is fantastic.

Spiritualised & Spacemen 3 also excellent.

The Jesus and Mary Chain reign supreme from the genre, of course. I am partial to the Wedding Present.. Ear piercing.

I think all had some energy, noise and authenticity that others didn't have. I probably wouldn't call them shoegaze.

Sludge ia right though, many of the later so called shoegaze bands were just awful and on par with all those awful britpop nonsense bands. One or two crept through with some great tunes and proper heavy guitar and booming bass, but so many were 'meh'.

Not shoegaze, but a special mention to 'James' .. Wonderful live and the later stuff really plays well live. 'Curse curse' is a very funny and uplifting tune.

Ill be travelling and will miss Queens of the Stone Age next month in Cardiff castle.. Great live band.

QOTSA were fantastic in their early days , first album is immense

Kyuss , Fu Manchu , Nebula are other decent stoner rock bands

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I saw James with a live orchestra back in April, in the St Davids Hall - wonderful experience. Also going to QOTSA in the castle, I am very much looking forward to that!

QOTSA yes

[NYCBlue]

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MBV were the loudest band I've ever seen live. Loveless is fantastic.

Spiritualised & Spacemen 3 also excellent.

The Jesus and Mary Chain reign supreme from the genre, of course. I am partial to the Wedding Present.. Ear piercing.

I think all had some energy, noise and authenticity that others didn't have. I probably wouldn't call them shoegaze.

Sludge ia right though, many of the later so called shoegaze bands were just awful and on par with all those awful britpop nonsense bands. One or two crept through with some great tunes and proper heavy guitar and booming bass, but so many were 'meh'.

Not shoegaze, but a special mention to 'James' .. Wonderful live and the later stuff really plays well live. 'Curse curse' is a very funny and uplifting tune.

Ill be travelling and will miss Queens of the Stone Age next month in Cardiff castle.. Great live band.

The JAMC are nowhere near shoegaze.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The JAMC are nowhere near shoegaze.

They were certainly heavy on the over drive

An indie band that were a rock band but didn't want to admit it

[Wales-Bales]

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The JAMC are nowhere near shoegaze.

They couldn't be if Loveless was also nowhere near shoegaze

[AfricanBluebird]

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I saw James with a live orchestra back in April, in the St Davids Hall - wonderful experience. Also going to QOTSA in the castle, I am very much looking forward to that!

Yeah my brother went to that and said it was fantastic.

I was travelling for work and missed it.

[NYCBlue]

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They couldn't be if Loveless was also nowhere near shoegaze

Shoegaze didn't exist in 1985.

I saw a top 5 "essential" shoegaze records recently and the Cocteau Twins were in it. 1982. Shoegaze?

[Wales-Bales]

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Shoegaze didn't exist in 1985.

I saw a top 5 "essential" shoegaze records recently and the Cocteau Twins were in it. 1982. Shoegaze?

Genre: a category of artistic, musical, or literary composition characterized by a particular style, form, or content.

[Divine Wright]

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Nicky Wire is a soppy spurs fan

The drummer , Liverpool

Dunno what you're moaning about ....that's about as Welsh as you get.

People who follow Welsh football teams is probably a small minority of the overall football following population in our country.

Same as people who vote for english political parties, watch english tv and read english newspapers.

I'd echo some of the sentiments on here regarding how successful they have been whilst maintaining substance in terms of the songs' messages.

Desgin for Life live , back when it was fresh is stirring to say the least.

[NYCBlue]

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Genre: a category of artistic, musical, or literary composition characterized by a particular style, form, or content.

In hindsight. Are you saying the JAMC and the Cocteau Twins are shoegaze bands?

[Wales-Bales]

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In hindsight. Are you saying the JAMC and the Cocteau Twins are shoegaze bands?

It's self-explanatory, categories are organised by style, form or content.