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  • #16
    Re: Fara-Go

    Originally posted by lardy View Post
    If, as he says, his account has been frozen because he got the UK out of the EU then it's incredibly worrying.

    If, as I imagine is probably the case, there is a lot more to it than that and he's suspected of doing something illegal, then I'm fine with that. And he's possibly in some trouble.
    Then surely there needs to be a legal process before any action is taken? What happened to innocent until proved guilty. If he's guilty of any crime then throw the book at him, nobody has a problem with that.

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    • #17
      Re: Fara-Go

      Originally posted by lardy View Post
      If, as he says, his account has been frozen because he got the UK out of the EU then it's incredibly worrying.

      If, as I imagine is probably the case, there is a lot more to it than that and he's suspected of doing something illegal, then I'm fine with that. And he's possibly in some truble.

      Didn’t they freeze the Canadian Truckers accounts for doing things the Canadian government objected against ?

      That’s perhaps where this is going, not today, not tomorrow, but it’s probably not that far away.

      You could have a scenario where “Just stop Oil” gets their funds frozen just for a direct action protest.

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
        Didn’t they freeze the Canadian Truckers accounts for doing things the Canadian government objected against ?

        That’s perhaps where this is going, not today, not tomorrow, but it’s probably not that far away.
        That was the trial run.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
          Then surely there needs to be a legal process before any action is taken? What happened to innocent until proved guilty. If he's guilty of any crime then throw the book at him, nobody has a problem with that.
          What legal process though? Coutts, Bank to the Common Man, froze an account associated with Farage for some reason. Rather than go through whatever process the Bank has for dealing with issues with accounts of Politically Exposed Persons where it felt necessary to take action, (and I would presume that Coutts would have some experience in discretion in these cases) Farage went nuclear.

          Maybe he was seething with rage, maybe he thought it might leak anyway or maybe he wanted to get ahead of the story.

          In any event we are way ahead of any suggestion of criminal proceedings. The only reason we know this is happening to a bank account associated with Farage is because he decided to publicise it.

          Elsewhere I agree with James that some of the cases where other banks have shelved accounts for things like anti-trans rhetoric stink and if Farage has done some service it is bringing this to the surface.

          Still ironic that the EU has introduced the fundamental right to a bank account which we have not mirrored. Saying that it has also strengthened its money laundering rules recently so it's a two way mirror I guess.

          Perhaps Farage could claim his fundamental human rights have been trampled on under the ECHR. Now that would be funny.

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          • #20
            Re: Fara-Go

            Originally posted by lardy View Post
            If, as he says, his account has been frozen because he got the UK out of the EU then it's incredibly worrying.

            If, as I imagine is probably the case, there is a lot more to it than that and he's suspected of doing something illegal, then I'm fine with that. And he's possibly in some truble.
            Getting us out of the EU would be enough for me to strip him naked and put him in the stocks, let alone closing down his bank accounts.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
              Getting us out of the EU would be enough for me to strip him naked and put him in the stocks, let alone closing down his bank accounts.
              It might be you if you say something on line that the government doesn’t like :hehe:

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                It might be you if you say something on line that the government doesn’t like :hehe:

                https://talk.tv/news/22852/banks-fre...x-reform-party
                This comes from Talk TV and the Reform cretins. No I don't think I shall lose any sleep over it.

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                  This comes from Talk TV and the Reform cretins. No I don't think I shall lose any sleep over it.
                  Huh, that was just one news item , it’s all over the tinternet.

                  Think about the implications not today but perhaps in 5/10 years time

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                    Huh, that was just one news item , it’s all over the tinternet.

                    Think about the implications not today but perhaps in 5/10 years time
                    Once you factor in things such as AI, CBDC and Digital ID you are looking at methods of control hitherto unknown to mankind.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                      Once you factor in things such as AI, CBDC and Digital ID you are looking at methods of control hitherto unknown to mankind.
                      People are being discriminated against if their views deviate from the ESG narrative.

                      No one voted for ESG did they ?

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                        People are being discriminated against if their views deviate from the ESG narrative.

                        No one voted for ESG did they ?

                        https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e...g-criteria.asp
                        Surely free thinking people and funds who want to invest their money because they thought they would get a better return from companies that show a care for environmental and social issues are free to do so aren't they?

                        Explain the bit that you needed to vote for it in a free market based on your link?

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                          People are being discriminated against if their views deviate from the ESG narrative.

                          No one voted for ESG did they ?

                          https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e...g-criteria.asp
                          Where's the discrimination here?

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by lardy View Post
                            Where's the discrimination here?
                            The policies it promotes can lead to discrimination. For example if I don’t follow certain criteria within that document, I can lose out financially (grants etc ) whether I agree with them or not.

                            If I tow the line , I’m fine.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Fara-Go

                              Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                              The policies it promotes can lead to discrimination. For example if I don’t follow certain criteria within that document, I can lose out financially (grants etc ) whether I agree with them or not.

                              If I tow the line , I’m fine.
                              What type of discrimination are you thinking of? Gender, race, something else?

                              What grants are investors getting?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Fara-Go

                                Originally posted by lardy View Post
                                What type of discrimination are you thinking of? Gender, race, something else?
                                You don’t understand what I’ve posted do you or something?

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