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  • #61
    Re: Just stop oil

    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
    The most striking thing about Just Stop Oil is that the public don't support them. They aren't achieving what they set out to do. Pissing people off is not winning them around, and that is really important to do as the wider topic is critical
    There has been instances of protesters being picked up and placed on the pavement or even carried off a sport’s pitch, I would say that that’s a touch more acceptable than clubbing a person to the deck then sticking the boot into them.

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    • #62
      Re: Just stop oil

      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
      The most striking thing about Just Stop Oil is that the public don't support them. They aren't achieving what they set out to do. Pissing people off is not winning them around, and that is really important to do as the wider topic is critical
      That is your opinion. From casual observation 7 out of 10 people in this country are either extremely clever or totally feckin stupid. The good news is we are going to find out soon enough, but if the 7 out of 10 turn out to be the ones who are totally feckin stupid, the damage done will be irreversible.

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      • #63
        Re: Just stop oil

        Everything people are saying about Just Stop Oil the same was said about the civil rights movement, the suffragettes and basically anyone who protested for any sort of improvement.

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        • #64
          Re: Just stop oil

          Originally posted by life on mars View Post
          The most ironic thing about Just Stop Oil is we did the planet would grind to halt as oil supports millions of mechanisms and manufacturers, without it we'd walk around naked, not have appliances, books , newspapers, basically nothing as manufacturers would grind to halt .

          Just For Oil are just another politcal financed group created to cause turmoil.

          Sadly they are as poster above rightly states damaged a decent protest and concern, as with most things of this size sensibility and planning is needed, not action that puts peoples lives and jobs at risk .
          Walking around naked is wonderful, you should try it and let it all hang out.

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          • #65
            Re: Just stop oil

            Originally posted by Doucas View Post
            Everything people are saying about Just Stop Oil the same was said about the civil rights movement, the suffragettes and basically anyone who protested for any sort of improvement.
            No it isn't. And those protests were for the right to vote and for the right not to be discriminated against because you were born black. Totally different scenarios

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            • #66
              Re: Just stop oil

              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
              No it isn't. And those protests were for the right to vote and for the right not to be discriminated against because you were born black. Totally different scenarios
              Jimbo, they are both protest groups.

              Is Keyser Size your cousin? She/he/they appear to be a more educated, erudite version of you.

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              • #67
                Re: Just stop oil

                I would love to revisit this thread if they blocked all the Railway lines and roads into stadiums, and then chained themselves to the turnstiles so people couldn't even walk in, for the season's 10 home and away games.

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                • #68
                  Re: Just stop oil

                  Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                  There has been instances of protesters being picked up and placed on the pavement or even carried off a sport’s pitch, I would say that that’s a touch more acceptable than clubbing a person to the deck then sticking the boot into them.
                  I remember a couple of years ago some other green-related protesters sat down on the M6 and delayed traffic for a few hours. People missed planes, children missed their family holidays, people missed hospital appointments. But the saddest was a lady whose father was dying in hospital and she had been called by the nurse that he didn't have long. She was rushing up north to see him before he died. Suffice to say she didn't make it but would have done so without the 'protesters' stopping traffic.
                  These are selfish, arrogant upper class twats. If I were in front of the traffic I wouldn't have given them a kicking, I'd have drive over them..

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                  • #69
                    Re: Just stop oil

                    Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                    I would love to revisit this thread if they blocked all the Railway lines and roads into stadiums, and then chained themselves to the turnstiles so people couldn't even walk in, for the season's 10 home and away games.
                    Luckily there’s 23 home and away games

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                    • #70
                      Re: Just stop oil

                      Originally posted by az city View Post
                      Jimbo, they are both protest groups.

                      Is Keyser Size your cousin? She/he/they appear to be a more educated, erudite version of you.
                      They are, but going about it in very different ways, and fighting for very different causes. In the first two cases they are in effect fighting for the right to process.

                      In Just Stop Oil's case, they have that right but they don't use it. They think they can just disrupt everyone's lives anyway. Probably because mummy or daddy never said no to them growing up?

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                      • #71
                        Re: Just stop oil

                        Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                        Everything people are saying about Just Stop Oil the same was said about the civil rights movement, the suffragettes and basically anyone who protested for any sort of improvement.
                        That's not actually true. Let's say you have two groups, Group A which consists of 7 out of every 10 people who think they are right, and Group B which consists of 3 out of every 10 people who think they are right

                        If a real or imagined disaster appeared on the horizon, and Group A consent to a particular course of action by virtue of being the majority, then both Group A and Group B will be hoping that Group A is right and Group B is wrong. But if Group A is wrong and it was actually an imagined disaster, it would make no difference if Group B was right because it would be too late to stop the hugely negative consequences of blindly following Group A.

                        In essence, what I am saying is you need to have a very robust debate between Group A and Group B before making any decisions that could result in a catastrophic consequence for mankind, i.e. what would happen if Group B are right and Group A are wrong?

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                        • #72
                          Re: Just stop oil

                          Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                          I would love to revisit this thread if they blocked all the Railway lines and roads into stadiums, and then chained themselves to the turnstiles so people couldn't even walk in, for the season's 10 home and away games.
                          Let them block railway lines.
                          I'm sure train drivers will be able to bring ther trains to a halt in time

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                          • #73
                            Re: Just stop oil

                            Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                            I would love to revisit this thread if they blocked all the Railway lines and roads into stadiums, and then chained themselves to the turnstiles so people couldn't even walk in, for the season's 10 home and away games.
                            In hindsight, the last two home games against the Jack's would've been welcome.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Just stop oil

                              Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                              In hindsight, the last two home games against the Jack's would've been welcome.
                              I was thinking that

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                              • #75
                                Re: Just stop oil

                                Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
                                Luckily there’s 23 home and away games
                                yes I missed out on the FIRST ten .................

                                There wouldn't be any protesters left after ten games.

                                The point being a lot of people with sympathy for them wouldn't be as sympathetic if they were affected and it stopped them doing what they wanted or needed to do.

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