Just stop oil

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Just stop oil

That's not actually true. Let's say you have two groups, Group A which consists of 7 out of every 10 people who think they are right, and Group B which consists of 3 out of every 10 people who think they are right

If a real or imagined disaster appeared on the horizon, and Group A consent to a particular course of action by virtue of being the majority, then both Group A and Group B will be hoping that Group A is right and Group B is wrong. But if Group A is wrong and it was actually an imagined disaster, it would make no difference if Group B was right because it would be too late to stop the hugely negative consequences of blindly following Group A.

In essence, what I am saying is you need to have a very robust debate between Group A and Group B before making any decisions that could result in a catastrophic consequence for mankind, i.e. what would happen if Group B are right and Group A are wrong?

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/public-hugely-underestimate-scientific-consensus-on-climate-change

There are two things here. Scientific evidence and people's perception/opinion.

In the first instance experts who have conducted peer reviewed studies almost universally agree the case for man-made climate change. As the study above shows however only 70% of the UK's population accept that.

It is not clear on what basis the almost two in 10 who think it's false base their perception on. Perhaps they think they have a greater gift than others and it fills them with a sense of self-worth, or perhaps loads of You Tube videos and tweets bombard them with supportive contrary views when they power up their phones in the morning which they accept and regurgitate without a moments hesitation.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Just stop oil

In hindsight, the last two home games against the Jack's would've been welcome.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12925319/gateshead-friendly-match-abandoned-after-balaclava-wearing-men-drive-hearse-onto-pitch

Perhaps we should have these guys on standby, just in case!

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Just stop oil

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/public-hu...climate-change

There are two things here. Scientific evidence and people's perception/opinion.

In the first instance experts who have conducted peer reviewed studies almost universally agree the case for man-made climate change. As the study above shows however only 70% of the UK's population accept that.

It is not clear on what basis the almost two in 10 who think it's false base their perception on. Perhaps they think they have a greater gift than others and it fills them with a sense of self-worth, or perhaps loads of You Tube videos and tweets bombard them with supportive contrary views when they power up their phones in the morning which they accept and regurgitate without a moments hesitation.

You forgot to mention the third thing, namely reality. What happens if the scientists and 7 out of every 10 people are wrong? Don't forget the covid vaccines were declared 100% safe and effective according to the boffins, and that wasn't true.

[Hilts]

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You forgot to mention the third thing, namely reality. What happens if the scientists and 7 out of every 10 people are wrong? Don't forget the covid vaccines were declared 100% safe and effective according to the boffins, and that wasn't true.

Were Covid vaccines declared 100% safe.?

Im not saying you are wrong but I dont recall this as most medications dont declare this. Always a chance of a reaction.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Just stop oil

That's not actually true. Let's say you have two groups, Group A which consists of 7 out of every 10 people who think they are right, and Group B which consists of 3 out of every 10 people who think they are right

If a real or imagined disaster appeared on the horizon, and Group A consent to a particular course of action by virtue of being the majority, then both Group A and Group B will be hoping that Group A is right and Group B is wrong. But if Group A is wrong and it was actually an imagined disaster, it would make no difference if Group B was right because it would be too late to stop the hugely negative consequences of blindly following Group A.

In essence, what I am saying is you need to have a very robust debate between Group A and Group B before making any decisions that could result in a catastrophic consequence for mankind, i.e. what would happen if Group B are right and Group A are wrong?

Give me some of what you are on

Wtf

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Just stop oil

Were Covid vaccines declared 100% safe.?

Im not saying you are wrong but I dont recall this as most medications dont declare this. Always a chance of a reaction.

100%, 99.9%, 99.7%, 97%, 95%, it doesn't matter and you are just deflecting. The question is what if the climate scientists are wrong? The economy will be destroyed, food production will be reduced drastically and replaced with synthetic products, and peoples freedoms will be curtailed. Don't you think the What If scenarios need to be gamed out before this happens?

[splott parker]

Re: Just stop oil

I remember a couple of years ago some other green-related protesters sat down on the M6 and delayed traffic for a few hours. People missed planes, children missed their family holidays, people missed hospital appointments. But the saddest was a lady whose father was dying in hospital and she had been called by the nurse that he didn't have long. She was rushing up north to see him before he died. Suffice to say she didn't make it but would have done so without the 'protesters' stopping traffic.
These are selfish, arrogant upper class twats. If I were in front of the traffic I wouldn't have given them a kicking, I'd have drive over them..

Not such a Quiet Monkfish then. You would potentially kill people then? I’m not supporting or condoning what they are doing and there has to be a different method of getting their message across but punching people to the floor, then booting them in the head and, even more disturbing, actually driving over them......c’mon now!

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Just stop oil

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...rse-onto-pitch

Perhaps we should have these guys on standby, just in case!

Just Stop Oil won't be happy with that protest!

Anyone else remember a well known City fan trying to stop a Swansea game by dangling on the cross bar Canton Stand?

Didn't succeed and City lost the game but provided some entertainment.

[Hilts]

Re: Just stop oil

100%, 99.9%, 99.7%, 97%, 95%, it doesn't matter and you are just deflecting. The question is what if the climate scientists are wrong? The economy will be destroyed, food production will be reduced drastically and replaced with synthetic products, and peoples freedoms will be curtailed. Don't you think the What If scenarios need to be gamed out before this happens?

Thanks. Didnt think they were declared 100% safe.

Your govt are doing a pretty good job of destroying the economy on their own without the climate scientists.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Just stop oil

Your govt are doing a pretty good job of destroying the economy on their own without the climate scientists.

I don't have a govt.

So what if the boffins are wrong on climate, what happens then? It will have to be something more substantial than Oops!

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Just stop oil

Thanks. Didnt think they were declared 100% safe

You are missing the point that they are not what they said they were.

[MOZZER2]

Re: Just stop oil

Just Stop Oil won't be happy with that protest!

Anyone else remember a well known City fan trying to stop a Swansea game by dangling on the cross bar Canton Stand?

Didn't succeed and City lost the game but provided some entertainment.

went to my very first city away game many moons ago with my former fellow rumney high school pupil never a dull moment when he was around and yes remembered that game

[jon1959]

Re: Just stop oil

You are missing the point that they are not what they said they were.

Does that all make sense in GlueyWorld?

You stated that politicians and scientists claimed vaccines were 100% safe.

Hilts questioned that. Quite rightly as you are spouting invented BS again. If there were any such claims they were made by a couple of grandstanding politicians and drowned out by everyone else who gave support for the vaccine programme.

You then seem to accept that your claim is invented. 'They' could have said 99% safe, or 95% safe or.....

Rather than accepting that you have missed the point about false reassurances or exaggerated claims - which seemed to be 'the point' you were trying and failing to make - you accuse someone else.

Have I got that right?

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

Re: Just stop oil

Were Covid vaccines declared 100% safe.?

Im not saying you are wrong but I dont recall this as most medications dont declare this. Always a chance of a reaction.

They were definitely not declared 100% safe. However, people who were under very little danger of any serious effects of Covid were persuaded - aggressively - to accept it to prevent passing it onto the the more vulnerable. Except that Pfizer has admitted their vaccine was never tested on whether it prevented transmission. I had 2 vaccines and a booster. I wouldn't have had any of them if I'd known this as I don't believe it posed much of a danger to me a healthy person with none of the vulnerable conditions. I won't have any more whatever I'm told because I don't like being lied to.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Just stop oil

This is how madness infects. Vaccines were introduced at "warp speed" to try and introduce normalcy. The developers never claimed they tested for evasion of transmission but after they had done their job the gifted gang bellowed this out as proof of some kind of plot.

In reality they both significantly stopped transmission, regardless of whether they were tested for it and mitigated the effects if there was transmission.

I am not sure who lied to you that they were tested for transmission but if you ever get confronted with similar circumstances again I guess you have to go with your instincts.