Just stop oil

[Des Parrot]

Re: Just stop oil

People who say that it's India, China, etc who need to sort themselves out for there to be any kind of meaningful impact are right.

But I can also imagine their argument would be that the UK population is equivalent to just two or three of their cities - if a small country like the UK can't manage anything near net zero, then why should they when it's much harder? Once the UK has walked the walk, then it can talk the talk.

The solution needs co-operation and us humans aren't great at that. It's not easy to be optimistic.

The UK is not on the agenda or radar of the likes of China or India, if anything it’s giving these countries the advantage and leverage over those countries trying todo the right thing. Just take Lithium mining as an example. Predominantly globally owned by China but conveniently located in other countries desperate for the money, to serve markets like the UK.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Just stop oil

I'm saying I don't expect them to co-operate when they can point out that a country with about 5% of their population can't even do it.

Yes, you're right, but even if we did they wouldn't give a toss, you can't even stop them invading other Countries.

[neilw65]

Re: Just stop oil

This is quite an interesting article on renewable energy in China

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/29/china-wind-solar-power-global-renewable-energy-leader

[blue matt]

Re: Just stop oil

This is quite an interesting article on renewable energy in China

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-energy-leader

can we really trust the Chinese on anything the report ( while I know this specific report is by a US based NGO )

[TWGL1]

Re: Just stop oil

https://fb.watch/mdIcemSONF/

Nice offices

[Heathblue]

Re: Just stop oil

https://fb.watch/mdIcemSONF/

Nice offices

It's a cult.
FOLLOW THE MONEY.

[TWGL1]

Re: Just stop oil

It's a cult.
FOLLOW THE MONEY.

Leading member of Just Stop Oil is revealed to be sitting on an estimated £1million pension pot from... Shell

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12278417/Leading-member-Just-Stop-Oil-revealed-estimated-1million-pension-pot-Shell.html

[JamesWales]

Re: Just stop oil

Just Stop Oil putting hanging up the tomato soup and orange powder..

https://news.sky.com/story/just-stop-oil-will-no-longer-throw-soup-at-paintings-as-it-ends-direct-action-13336484

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Just stop oil

Just Stop Oil putting hanging up the tomato soup and orange powder..

https://news.sky.com/story/just-stop...ction-13336484

It's because Trump has cornered the market in orange powder.

[JamesWales]

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It's because Trump has cornered the market in orange powder.

Ha, he's ground the competition out of business. Classic tactic

[Rjk]

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can we really trust the Chinese on anything the report ( while I know this specific report is by a US based NGO )

I think so, China have been making very impressive strides with the transition to renewable energy for years - they consistently overachieve their targets whereas we always miss ours.

They are also doing that at the same time of lifting millions of people out of poverty / subsistence farming every year and into their burgeoning middle class.

I honestly have more confidence in them meeting their net zero target of 2060 with a peak in 2030 than the UK meeting our target of 2050

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Just stop oil

Farmers blocking the streets .....fine upstanding mostly tory voters .....no farmers no food.....tally ho

Just stop oil , extinction rebellion .......dirty smelly left wing scum stopping us good sorts going to work !

No planet

We are ****ed

[Dorcus]

Re: Just stop oil

Farmers blocking the streets .....fine upstanding mostly tory voters .....no farmers no food.....tally ho

Just stop oil , extinction rebellion .......dirty smelly left wing scum stopping us good sorts going to work !

No planet

We are ****ed

Got it in one 👍

[JamesWales]

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No, the difference is that one group does it legally, in arranged protests. The others don't and they vandalize others property.

Thats the difference!

[jon1959]

Re: Just stop oil

No, the difference is that one group does it legally, in arranged protests. The others don't and they vandalize others property.

Thats the difference!

Nonsense.

Loads of farmers protests since the Reeves budget have been ‘illegal’ and resulted in blocked roads and massive disruption - just like climate protestors.

The only difference is that the Tractor boys and girls don’t normally glue themselves to the tarmac, and get far more sympathetic treatment from the constabulary.