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  • #31
    Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

    Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...
    You silly old tory

    Plenty of people live a good life and don't boast about it

    Pompous nonsense

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    • #32
      Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      Absolute nonsense

      No wonder you are living the life of luxury in the dordogne
      I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...

      Oh and yes I DO have a proxy vote...although when most in South Wales at leat would elect a donkey with a red rosette it makes no difference....

      Look..I grew up in a two up two down terrace house in Cymmer,Porth...outside toilet which froze in winter...........my father dug coal in Ynysybwl Colliery by hand....fractured his skull.....leg amputated by accidents in the mines....Don't lecture me on moralities. I moved on and made my life better....

      The only decent administration for the Rhondda was when Annie Powell (Communist ) was mayor (and I am NOT advocating communism.)

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      • #33
        Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

        Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
        I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...

        Oh and yes I DO have a proxy vote...although when most in South Wales at leat would elect a donkey with a red rosette it makes no difference....

        Look..I grew up in a two up two down terrace house in Cymmer,Porth...outside toilet which froze in winter...........my father dug coal in Ynysybwl Colliery by hand....fractured his skull.....leg amputated by accidents in the mines....Don't lecture me on moralities. I moved on and made my life better....

        The only decent administration for the Rhondda was when Annie Powell (Communist ) was mayor (and I am NOT advocating communism.)
        I am playing the world's smallest violin

        You were born in the wrong barn

        Thankfully a tory like you is a wasted vote ❎

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        • #34
          Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

          Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
          I live a good life (not luxury) because I planned and lived within my means in the UK...it is called forward planning....maybe that is an alien concept to you...

          Oh and yes I DO have a proxy vote...although when most in South Wales at leat would elect a donkey with a red rosette it makes no difference....

          Look..I grew up in a two up two down terrace house in Cymmer,Porth...outside toilet which froze in winter...........my father dug coal in Ynysybwl Colliery by hand....fractured his skull.....leg amputated by accidents in the mines....Don't lecture me on moralities. I moved on and made my life better....

          The only decent administration for the Rhondda was when Annie Powell (Communist ) was mayor (and I am NOT advocating communism.)
          You were advocating The National Rally a few weeks back.

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          • #35
            Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            The reason for such rampant financial problems since 2010 when your bloody tories came in is the huge reduction in block grant from the government

            It's all outlined above for you

            Less and less income , more and more demand for services

            Now we , ccfc can hopefully compete in the lower half of the championship but with the club not really spending any money we are unlikely to do well

            It's the same sort of thing
            Isn't the problem in Birmingham due to the fact the Council had been underpaying their female workforce forcing the Council to backpay with the resultant unsustainable debt.

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            • #36
              Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
              I am playing the world's smallest violin

              You were born in the wrong barn

              Thankfully a tory like you is a wasted vote ❎

              Well..there you go again...sad man.
              Is that supposed to mean anything??

              No further response..I will leave others to judge.....they know your idiosynchries well...

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              • #37
                Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                Isn't the problem in Birmingham due to the fact the Council had been underpaying their female workforce forcing the Council to backpay with the resultant unsustainable debt.
                The backpay is part of the situation but the reduction in block grant since 2010 is the key

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                • #38
                  Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                  I strongly suggest this should be moved to the Alternative forum if it is to continue.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    I work in local government Mo, and i'll tell you this, it's brutal. I work on Housing repairs and we're nailed down to doing the minimum required, even if it looks utter shit and by no fault of the trades person (in most cases) the quality and standard of work is greatly compromised. It's demoralising not just for the operative, but for the Tennant as well. I'm given 4 or 5 hours on a job that needs 2 days in order to do a good job that will last. It's cut to the bone.
                    Some of this might have helped ....



                    They are, completely fu***ng useless.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                      Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
                      Well..there you go again...sad man.
                      Is that supposed to mean anything??

                      No further response..I will leave others to judge.....they know your idiosynchries well...
                      It means stop being so pompous

                      Just because you have done well enough to emigrate doesn't mean you can make ridiculous comments about the financial problems of Birmingham City Council based upon your upbringing in Aberdare

                      Spend a few hours in the shade Mo

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                      • #41
                        Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                        Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-66715441

                        I know Birmingham has it's own unique issues but won't be long before we see others go the same way.
                        Thatchers fault obviously.

                        Any other Councils gone bust (Lab or Con or Lib Dem ?)
                        Birmingham council is a basket case - Channel4 of all people , did a documentary on Brum council, Im surprised they lasted this long.

                        And there was me thinking a Labour run Council was all about fair pay for all - they fecking bang on about it often enough. If they had payed them properly in the first place that would have meant they had no money to spend on the left wing socialist nonsense policies.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                          [QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5451848]It means stop being so pompous

                          Just because you have done well enough to emigrate doesn't mean you can make ridiculous comments about the financial problems of Birmingham City Council based upon your upbringing in Aberdare /QUOTE]

                          that is EXACTLY why I feel able to make financial comments........I have MANAGED things at all stages i n life.... NO further comments....

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                          • #43
                            Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                            Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
                            You reduce overheads...salaries of top execs etc....and other (much) extraneous expenditure...

                            Not sure what you mean by high flying executive..
                            That is not enough detail - sorry

                            but if you keep reducing staff costs - even top ones you fail to recruit and therefore have bigger problems again - sorry but some of the stuff that councils deal with are not widgets or consumer products - they are human beings and come at a premium cost whether people like it or not

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                            • #44
                              Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                              We all have different viewpoints...

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                              • #45
                                Re: Birmingham Council declares bankruptcy

                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                No Birmingham is labour led

                                As are most councils that get into financial bother

                                But it's got nothing to do with that which is the point you were trying to push

                                But I am afraid you have fallen on your ass
                                And you think it's nothing to do with poor management, vanity projects, too many staff , sickness levels , no performance or budget responsibilities?? Manchester Police went to special measures , London is a mess , see the trend here



                                Check out who runs the 10 worst by complaints .

                                Easy to make sweeping generalisation about the alleged political favouring based on ones dislike of a party in all honesty you'd have to be really sure of that and for poor management .

                                Think you may Labour does run a lot of councils these days and 1 in 10 are in trouble.

                                Trouble for Labour they are not keen on bad news like wage control , staff numbers , performance and critical funding? They tend to favour 20mph speed limits , green issues , diversity, events , road bumps , changing street names, replacing status, anything really beside the core issues health , policing, education.

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