Triple Lock

[JamesWales]

Re: Triple Lock

The bloke who isn't a raving tory has turned up to defend the tory government and belittle the Welsh Labour government

Again ......

Well that's a surprise

But he's not a raving tory and is politically neutral

Honest

Just stating facts Sludge
They aren't owned by any party.

Why would you support things that aren't true?

[Dorcus]

Re: Triple Lock

Thank you for your in-depth critical analysis :hehe:

My pleasure! It makes sense to adapt the response to alternative audience types 😂

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Triple Lock

Just stating facts Sludge
They aren't owned by any party.

Why would you support things that aren't true?

You have done that everytime you have voted conservative especially during the last 13 years

And despite pretending to be nuanced you will do it again and prop them up and legitimise them again

You are using the possibility of a tiny improvement in the economy recently to justify your biased support of the conservatives and write off the last decade as the fault of brexit , covid or Ukraine

Its incredibly tedious but even if you get battered at the next election you will still be at it with your yeah but no but what about etc etc

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Triple Lock

Conveniently ignored the responses that did question what you were saying though..

I read them with interest, old fruit. I'm always happy to take on board the thoughts, perspective and points of other posters.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Triple Lock

My pleasure! It makes sense to adapt the response to alternative audience types ��

:hehe:

[JamesWales]

Re: Triple Lock

You have done that everytime you have voted conservative especially during the last 13 years

And despite pretending to be nuanced you will do it again and prop them up and legitimise them again

You are using the possibility of a tiny improvement in the economy recently to justify your biased support of the conservatives and write off the last decade as the fault of brexit , covid or Ukraine

Its incredibly tedious but even if you get battered at the next election you will still be at it with your yeah but no but what about etc etc

Nah, I'm just saying, you and others say things that patently are incorrect.

When you do stuff like that, it's inevitable that people will push back

If someone was on here saying that Welsh Labour had created food banks in Wales I'd be saying the same, cos that's also bollocks.

What's frustrating is that if you actually wanted to solve these issues (and no one doubts that they are issues) then you would be interested in properly diagnosing them. But you arent.

You imply a centre-left govt will fix things but we have had one of those here for 24 years and if anything poverty is worse here. They also have them in lots of places around Europe and food banks and economic stagnation, unemployment, inflation and all the rest of it exist there too.

So quite clearly the cause of these issues lies elsewhere. We all know it, it's just lazy, boring and actually kinda selfish to blame the govt alone. You get a dopamine hit for slagging off the Tories online but in practice not a single problem has been solved.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Nah, I'm just saying, you and others say things that patently are incorrect.

When you do stuff like that, it's inevitable that people will push back

If someone was on here saying that Welsh Labour had created food banks in Wales I'd be saying the same, cos that's also bollocks.

What's frustrating is that if you actually wanted to solve these issues (and no one doubts that they are issues) then you would be interested in properly diagnosing them. But you arent.

You imply a centre-left govt will fix things but we have had one of those here for 24 years and if anything poverty is worse here. They also have them in lots of places around Europe and food banks and economic stagnation, unemployment, inflation and all the rest of it exist there too.

So quite clearly the cause of these issues lies elsewhere. We all know it, it's just lazy, boring and actually kinda selfish to blame the govt alone. You get a dopamine hit for slagging off the Tories online but in practice not a single problem has been solved.

A tory calling left of centre voters selfish

That's a classic

This has turned into a comedy act and you are on stage , hovering above a trap door

[life on mars]

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Well lets be safe in tegh knowledge that her supreme highness hath spoken.

In a desperate bid to get power now the so called left are now reversing their Corbyn ideals now we have Tory Lite appeal policies bin the shape , No Guarantees On Triple Lock , Stronger Immigration Controls , NHS cannot just hae dosh thrown at it ( ie privatise ) no wealth taxes , woman born with penis or vhginas , god knows which one , as the fence they sit on keeps crumbling :

Evil Tories have allowed pay to rise 8.5 per cent in 3 months to July, which results on state pension will rise by the same amount in April thanks to the Tory Left Lock policy ,inflation coming down, meanwhile as pensioners get wealthy the young cant afford to buy a house because as wages /pensions grow Bank of England raises interest rates , yey perfect storm .

Truss was right cut taxes get folk spending bit like Germany who have just announced a similar tax cut as Truss ""Germany agrees 32 bln euro tax cuts to give economy 'big boost' and ""

Now we cant criticise Germans or Europe as they are shining beacon of hope as many have spouted over the years ..

Lets leave Europe ?? Oh hang on

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-war-drags-europes-economy-succumbs-crisis-2022-08-23/

Recession almost certain
Germany and Italy among hardest hit
Consumers' purse drained by record high inflation
Strong labour market offers hope of short recession
Energy transition may boost resilience in long run

So the UK does have resilience where is the downfall ??

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Triple Lock

I will admit it wasn't a great thread to start with but it has been completely ruined by the same old people now.

[JamesWales]

Re: Triple Lock

A tory calling left of centre voters selfish

That's a classic

This has turned into a comedy act and you are on stage , hovering above a trap door

As I said Sludge, people just keep saying things that aren't true and use it to blame the govt for everything, which is pretty repetitive, gets us no closer to the truth and yeah, tbh I do find it a bit selfish cos it's rarely people at the sharp end saying it. It's like a discussion on misbehaving kids and all you do is shout about blaming the parents ad inifinitum. Things are normally far more complex than people make out.

Clearly the triple lock is not an easy decision. Quite clearly good banks aren't wholly caused by the UK govt because they exist everywhere. It's just daft stuff and these threads always get dragged down to that Disney level of goodies and baddies.

[Dorcus]

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Well lets be safe in tegh knowledge that her supreme highness hath spoken.

In a desperate bid to get power now the so called left are now reversing their Corbyn ideals now we have Tory Lite appeal policies bin the shape , No Guarantees On Triple Lock , Stronger Immigration Controls , NHS cannot just hae dosh thrown at it ( ie privatise ) no wealth taxes , woman born with penis or vhginas , god knows which one , as the fence they sit on keeps crumbling :

Evil Tories have allowed pay to rise 8.5 per cent in 3 months to July, which results on state pension will rise by the same amount in April thanks to the Tory Left Lock policy ,inflation coming down, meanwhile as pensioners get wealthy the young cant afford to buy a house because as wages /pensions grow Bank of England raises interest rates , yey perfect storm .

Truss was right cut taxes get folk spending bit like Germany who have just announced a similar tax cut as Truss ""Germany agrees 32 bln euro tax cuts to give economy 'big boost' and ""

Now we cant criticise Germans or Europe as they are shining beacon of hope as many have spouted over the years ..

Lets leave Europe ?? Oh hang on

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-war-drags-europes-economy-succumbs-crisis-2022-08-23/

Recession almost certain
Germany and Italy among hardest hit
Consumers' purse drained by record high inflation
Strong labour market offers hope of short recession
Energy transition may boost resilience in long run

So the UK does have resilience where is the downfall ??

Whew!

[Elwood Blues]

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The politics of justice! I know loads of pensioners worth well over 1 mill. Let's not kill the old but let's level up.

Define 'loads'

100? 200? 1000?

And does that 1 million include the value of their house?

[Hilts]

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Define 'loads'

100? 200? 1000?

And does that 1 million include the value of their house?

Hasnt it been claimed there are 3 million pensioners worth over a million in the UK.

[jon1959]

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Hasnt it been claimed there are 3 million pensioners worth over a million in the UK.

Yes that was the finding 3-4 years ago - pension pot, savings etc plus value of property:

https://www.if.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/3-million_pensioner_millionaires_press_release_FINAL.pdf

[Elwood Blues]

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Yes that was the finding 3-4 years ago - pension pot, savings etc plus value of property:

https://www.if.org.uk/wp-content/upl...ease_FINAL.pdf

In many, probably most cases, the vast bulk of that is in the property value.

Not going to be able to buy much extra food or energy without selling the house!!!