Russell Brand.

[life on mars]

Re: Russell Brand.

Sadly if he is guilty the case could collapse due to the media frenzy his defence will argue he's been convicted in the public eye ,therefore no jury can deliver with an open mind . What's wrong with woman hanging with a well documented self-confessed sex addict

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Russell Brand.

They said that with regards to Hugh Edwards as well...

How did they?

[JamesWales]

Re: Russell Brand.

There's a couple of sides to this story isn't there;

Firstly the public interest side; accusations made, insights given into his past, his personality and relationships etc. That is in the public interest in my opinion as they are serious or shocking, and that also goes for Phillip Schofield and Huw Edwards.

The other side is the legal side of it. Now the accusations are very serious but they are only accusations at this point. I can see why companies don't want to be associated with him at the moment, but I'm very uncomfortable with this removal of past programmes and things from websites.

Noel Clarke is currently using the guardian for £10m over similar stories.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66122841

Kevin Spacey was also cleared of allegations against him

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/jul/26/kevin-spacey-cleared-of-sexually-assaulting-four-men

I've no doubt Russell Brand has treated many women badly but we need to remember the principle of innocence until proven guilty and saying that isn't a defence of him, it's a defence of the rule of law and basic liberal society as we have known for centuries.

[life on mars]

Re: Russell Brand.

Epstein was arrested (2nd time!!! in 2019) 4 years on his the client list still hasn't been officially revealed, I wonder why.
Clue, the flight logs of the Lolita Express would be a good place to start!!!.

Ooooh would expose too many presidents nah lets lock up a Brits and put a prince in court , biggest USA cover up ever only ,thankfully they had some great UK scapegoats , not a single USA citizens was involved ,marvellous fair stuff ..

And yes Maxwell should be in jail along with many more ,sadly those ex presidents ,not Trump , and wives were immune .

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Russell Brand.

Ooooh would expose too many presidents nah lets lock up a Brits and put a prince in court , biggest USA cover up ever only ,thankfully they had some great UK scapegoats , not a single USA citizens was involved ,marvellous fair stuff ..

And yes Maxwell should be in jail along with many more ,sadly those ex presidents ,not Trump , and wives were immune .

Are there any Heddlu in the house?

If so, can a S.136 of the Mental Health Act be considered?

[TWGL1]

Re: Russell Brand.

Ooooh would expose too many presidents nah lets lock up a Brits and put a prince in court , biggest USA cover up ever only ,thankfully they had some great UK scapegoats , not a single USA citizens was involved ,marvellous fair stuff ..

And yes Maxwell should be in jail along with many more ,sadly those ex presidents ,not Trump , and wives were immune .

Didn’t Maxwell have links to Mossad ?

[Heathblue]

Re: Russell Brand.

Will be interesting to see if the establishment go after Neil Oliver next, I'm hedging that a deep dive is already in play.
Oliver has similar views to Brand on digital banking/currency, human trafficking, Vaccines etc. etc.

🗣️Rumble releases statement refusing to demonetize Russell Brand based on accusations alone

The UK Gov’t has unleashed a coordinated attack on Brand’s livelihood after allegations of sexual assault were published

He hasn’t been charged or convicted, yet they are sending… pic.twitter.com/tf9Kb3LCum

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) September 20, 2023

[chrisp_1927]

Re: Russell Brand.

Will be interesting to see if the establishment go after Neil Oliver next, I'm hedging that a deep dive is already in play.
Oliver has similar views to Brand on digital banking/currency, human trafficking, Vaccines etc. etc.

🗣️Rumble releases statement refusing to demonetize Russell Brand based on accusations alone

The UK Gov’t has unleashed a coordinated attack on Brand’s livelihood after allegations of sexual assault were published

He hasn’t been charged or convicted, yet they are sending… pic.twitter.com/tf9Kb3LCum

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) September 20, 2023

The establishment. Jesus man you have a problem. The man's a creep, and his past is catching up with him. That's the beginning and end of the situation. Can't believe people fall for this crap.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Russell Brand.

The establishment. Jesus man you have a problem. The man's a creep, and his past is catching up with him. That's the beginning and end of the situation. Can't believe people fall for this crap.

I'd say less are than I expected to. Besides the reaction to the allegations made in the programme over the weekend, I've also seen it suggested that Brand's change of persona when it comes to politics can be put down to a calculated decision to cultivate a different type of following as a preparation for what he knew was coming regarding the allegations as to his sexual behaviour, could it be that a proportion of those who have supported and followed him since he became an "anti establishment wellness guru" have realised that they were being used by someone who might just be a grifter out to exploit them?

[chrisp_1927]

Re: Russell Brand.

I'd say less are than I expected to. Besides the reaction to the allegations made in the programme over the weekend, I've also seen it suggested that Brand's change of persona when it comes to politics can be put down to a calculated decision to cultivate a different type of following as a preparation for what he knew was coming regarding the allegations as to his sexual behaviour, could it be that a proportion of those who have supported and followed him since he became an "anti establishment wellness guru" have realised that they were being used by someone who might just be a grifter out to exploit them?

Was reading something similar and thought it was quite an interesting idea. Certainly makes you wonder, must be useful for these people to have a ready made crowd that will believe they are being persecuted for 'telling the truth'.

I do also wonder with Brand if it's just a case of him being so narcissistic and egotistical that he thinks he's better than others, leading to him thinking he knows better than 'the experts' and that he can do what he wants with women.

[JamesWales]

Re: Russell Brand.

I'd say less are than I expected to. Besides the reaction to the allegations made in the programme over the weekend, I've also seen it suggested that Brand's change of persona when it comes to politics can be put down to a calculated decision to cultivate a different type of following as a preparation for what he knew was coming regarding the allegations as to his sexual behaviour, could it be that a proportion of those who have supported and followed him since he became an "anti establishment wellness guru" have realised that they were being used by someone who might just be a grifter out to exploit them?

Ironically enough, that theory on Brand is itself a conspiracy theory, no?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Russell Brand.

Ironically enough, that theory on Brand is itself a conspiracy theory, no?

Yes it is, us sheeple are also allowed to indulge occasionally you know.

[Heathblue]

Re: Russell Brand.

The establishment. Jesus man you have a problem. The man's a creep, and his past is catching up with him. That's the beginning and end of the situation. Can't believe people fall for this crap.

Yes The establishment, if you do not think it exists then you have a problem, I wouldn't piss on the bloke if he was on fire, from what I have read, complaints were made years ago but amounted to nothing, (he was in the establishment then and just like the Epstein client list has been protected) but he's been gobbing off on things that he shouldn't, has crossed the line so he's been reeled in, yes his past is catching up with him but IMO, if he'd not being going on about vaccines n'stuff then business as usual.

[JamesWales]

Re: Russell Brand.

Yes it is, us sheeple are also allowed to indulge occasionally you know.

You are all as bad as eachother!

[pipster]

Re: Russell Brand.

What seems strange is that Huw Edwards engages a 17 year old boy to perform on a web cam - the bbc said they couldnt reveal the name, no media outlets were allowed to reveal his name - until Edwards wife tells everyone.

Russell Brand - someone makes an allegation - The dispatches program then repeats those allegations and the media and bbc are all over it like a rash.

Seems some what double standards to me.