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  • #31
    Re: Lockdown - harmful to children

    I heard Dr J Campbell has got some data in his latest video blog. The guy scares me with the stuff he puts out , not sure why he’s not banned from You Tube.

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    • #32
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      Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
      I heard Dr J Campbell has got some data in his latest video blog. The guy scares me with the stuff he puts out , not sure why he’s not banned from You Tube.
      Why would you listen to him when you can access the expertise of the Cowbridge Tory and the boys from Bargoed on here ?.

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      • #33
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        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        I'm not telling anyone off. I'm just saying, justification for the lockdown at the time and the impact of it on (in this case) young people are two different topics, although as you say, clearly linked.

        And no, this forum won't help deal with anything, but that goes for every topic ever discussed on here. Still, conversations can be useful on topics.
        Go and re-read the OP, it is 100% about being against lockdown and people feeling persecuted for being against lockdown and not about moving forward with children's mental health or education issues. It is an attempt to justify being anti-lockdown, kids are just a tool.

        I think this is just another example of you failing to make a decent point and then acting superior James. Your post on the first page was in exactly the same vein as everyone else's, other than your trademark fence sitting.

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
          Go and re-read the OP, it is 100% about being against lockdown and people feeling persecuted for being against lockdown and not about moving forward with children's mental health or education issues. It is an attempt to justify being anti-lockdown, kids are just a tool.

          I think this is just another example of you failing to make a decent point and then acting superior James. Your post on the first page was in exactly the same vein as everyone else's, other than your trademark fence sitting.
          Well he can be against the lockdown if he wishes and thinks it wasn't worth it for the long term damage, but that's beside the point..

          It's not fence sitting, it's recognising the pros and cons of issues. One of the cons is the impact on kids. Any suggestions on that?

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
            Well he can be against the lockdown if he wishes and thinks it wasn't worth it for the long term damage, but that's beside the point..

            It's not fence sitting, it's recognising the pros and cons of issues. One of the cons is the impact on kids. Any suggestions on that?
            Kids will get over it in the long term, vulnerable elderly adults won't! QED: Life isn't always smooth!

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
              Kids will get over it in the long term, vulnerable elderly adults won't! QED: Life isn't always smooth!
              But dismissive there Dorcus, but there we go. I guess everyone has different things they are concerned about etc

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              • #37
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                Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                Why would you listen to him when you can access the expertise of the Cowbridge Tory and the boys from Bargoed on here ?.
                It's all about tweedle dum up in heath

                The overall health of the country never mattered

                Woe is me and my problems

                But pretending to be concerned

                The grim reaper

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                • #38
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                  Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                  Kids will get over it in the long term, vulnerable elderly adults won't! QED: Life isn't always smooth!
                  Indeed

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                  • #39
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                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    But dismissive there Dorcus, but there we go. I guess everyone has different things they are concerned about etc
                    Not dismissive in the slightest; more a case of realism I'd say.

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                    • #40
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                      I think there is something in suggesting that young people could sometimes have a bit more resilience about the realities of life, but I'd say you are both being a bit dismissive here. Absenteeism, anxiety, mental health problems, less developed, lacking social skills, less suited to the workplace etc. There is a real post covid impact and I think it's all of our responsibility as a society to try and understand and help fix that tbh.

                      I don't think they can all be waved away by saying life is tough, get over it. Covid changed things.

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                      • #41
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                        Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                        Not dismissive in the slightest; more a case of realism I'd say.
                        What about the 1:10 of the whole population on the NHS waiting list for operations ( indirect result of lockdowns), a vast majority of which are life threatening, will they get over it ?

                        What about the millions who have lost their businesses , will they get over it ?

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                          What about the 1:10 of the whole population on the NHS waiting list for operations ( indirect result of lockdowns), a vast majority of which are life threatening, will they get over it ?

                          What about the millions who have lost their businesses , will they get over it ?
                          People have been subject to problems with NHS waiting lists for many years

                          If you accept this was a world wide pandemic ......I hope you do ......then waiting lists , unemployment , kids missing school etc etc was always going to be a problem

                          What is it you are after here ?

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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            Well he can be against the lockdown if he wishes and thinks it wasn't worth it for the long term damage, but that's beside the point..

                            It's not fence sitting, it's recognising the pros and cons of issues. One of the cons is the impact on kids. Any suggestions on that?
                            Suggestions not required from a data monkey like myself, I don't know if you realise, but you are a bit late to the party, schools and children's services departments across the land have been dealing with this for well over two years now..

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                              Suggestions not required from a data monkey like myself, I don't know if you realise, but you are a bit late to the party, schools and children's services departments across the land have been dealing with this for well over two years now..
                              I know they have. The issues have been escalating since the first lockdown. I dread to think what happened behind closed doors in many households.

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                                I know they have. The issues have been escalating since the first lockdown. I dread to think what happened behind closed doors in many households.
                                Well it is what it is

                                Being unprepared for a pandemic is and was a huge ask for the NHS , Social Services , Schools , The Police , Kids , The Elderly , Disabled people etc etc

                                Some people had nervous breakdowns because they couldn't go to Spain or ponce about on a Munich City Break with their wife to be

                                Some of it was cringeworthy

                                Thank god we havnt had a war recently

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