40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[stevo]

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Thanks for posting these articles, Jon. Makes you realise what a shit planet we live on.

[jeepster]

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https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

Extract:

If the roles were reversed…

Because if the roles were reversed—if Palestinians had spent the last eight decade stealing Jewish homes, expelling, oppressing, imprisoning, poisoning, torturing, raping and killing them; if Palestinians had killed an estimated 300,000 Jews in one year, targeted their journalists, their thinkers, their healthcare workers, their athletes, their artists, bombed every Israeli hospital, university, library, museum, cultural center, synagogue, and simultaneously set up an observation platform where people came watch their slaughter as if a tourist attraction;

If Palestinians had corralled them by the hundreds of thousands into flimsy tents, bombed them in so called safe zones, burned them alive, cut off their food, water, and medicine;

If Palestinians made Jewish children wander barefoot with empty pots; made them gather the flesh of their parents into plastic bags; made them bury their siblings, cousins and friends; made them sneak out from their tents in the middle of the night to sleep on their parents’ graves; made them pray for death just to join their families and not be alone in this terrible world anymore, and terrorized them so utterly that their children lose their hair, lose their memory, lose their minds, and made those as young as 4 and 5 year old were die of heart attacks;

If we mercilessly forced their NICU babies to die, alone in hospital beds, crying until they could cry no more, died and decomposed in the same spot;

If Palestinians used wheat flour aid trucks to lure starving jews, then opened fire on them when they gathered to collect a day’s bread; if Palestinians finally allowed a food delivery into a shelter with hungry Jews, then set fire to the entire shelter and aid truck before anyone could taste the food;

if a Palestinian sniper bragged about blowing out 42 Jewish kneecaps in one day as one Israeli soldier did in 2019; if a Palestinian admitted to CNN that he ran over hundreds of Jews with his tank, their squished flesh lingering in the tank treads;

If Palestinians were systematically raping Jewish doctors, patients, and other captives with hot metal rods, jagged and electrified sticks, and fire extinguishers, sometimes raping to death, as happened with Dr Adnan alBursh and others;

If Jewish women were forced to give birth in filth, get C-sections or leg amputations without anesthesia; if we destroyed their children then decorated our tanks with their toys; if we killed or displaced their women then posed with their lingerie…

If the world were watching the livestreamed systematic annihilation of Jews in real time, there would be no debating whether that constituted terrorism or genocide.

Very powerful but sad.

[jon1959]

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https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/what-most-israelis-choose-not-to-know/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_source_platform=mailpoet&utm_campaign=today-on-the-jvl-blog-newsletter-total-articles-for-you_1

A Massive Database of Evidence, Compiled by a Historian, Documents Israel's War Crimes in Gaza

A woman with a child is shot while waving a white flag . Starving girls are crushed to death in line for bread. A cuffed 62-year-old man is run over, evidently by a tank. An aerial strike targets people trying to help a wounded boy. A database of thousands of videos, photos, testimonies, reports and investigations documents the horrors committed by Israel in Gaza.

“Bearing Witness to the Israel-Gaza War” by "Lee Mordechai, 42, a former officer in the IDF Combat Engineering Corps, (who) is presently a senior lecturer in history at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem."

[the other bob wilson]

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A tough read, but thanks for those links Jon. I was struck by the bit that said the person would not compare what’s happened to the Holocaust, but it matches what was going on in Germany in the thirties. Almost as bad is the way that many leaders of western democracies still back the line that Israel is defending itself - that line stopped having any justification a year and more ago.

[truthpaste]

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More info on the work of FAJR Scientific in Gaza:

https://fajr.org/support-children/

Great work they are doing, have shared this and donated, Shalom

[Gofer Blue]

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Great work they are doing, have shared this and donated, Shalom

Both PCRF and FAJR seem to be doing similar work in Gaza, so I have donated to each to cover both bases! I also wrote a kind of "thank you email" to both organisations to thank them for what they are doing. I think they deserve to be acknowledged and encouraged about the work they are doing, in what must be the most difficult of circumstances.

[Gofer Blue]

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https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

A Massive Database of Evidence, Compiled by a Historian, Documents Israel's War Crimes in Gaza

A woman with a child is shot while waving a white flag . Starving girls are crushed to death in line for bread. A cuffed 62-year-old man is run over, evidently by a tank. An aerial strike targets people trying to help a wounded boy. A database of thousands of videos, photos, testimonies, reports and investigations documents the horrors committed by Israel in Gaza.

“Bearing Witness to the Israel-Gaza War” by "Lee Mordechai, 42, a former officer in the IDF Combat Engineering Corps, (who) is presently a senior lecturer in history at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem."

A very brave guy to speak up like that I should think, especially considering where he is employed.

Thanks for the other articles - unbelievably harrowing stuff.

Now we have the Syrian uprising situation to add to the mix. I have been speaking with our Syrian refugee family today about this latest news as they still have relatives in the Deraa district which is where the rebel fighters are now. The Syrian mum's mother is living near Deraa City and she told the family over the phone last night that there are armed rebels where she is and she is scared. On the news we see a mixture of reactions from the people - some are euphoric with joy and others are scared, fleeing from their homes. On the one hand the family will be pleased to see Assad toppled (the civil war was the reason they fled their home in 2013 and ended up in Wales) but they are conscious of the likely chaotic future for their country with so many different factions involved - nightmare.

I suspect Assad will do a runner soon as Damascus will be next. I assume he would not be universally accepted elsewhere - Russia or Iran?

[truthpaste]

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Both PCRF and FAJR seem to be doing similar work in Gaza, so I have donated to each to cover both bases! I also wrote a kind of "thank you email" to both organisations to thank them for what they are doing. I think they deserve to be acknowledged and encouraged about the work they are doing, in what must be the most difficult of circumstances.

Indeed, and TEAR Fund who we have supported since the 1980's have also stepped up as you would expect.

[Gofer Blue]

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Indeed, and TEAR Fund who we have supported since the 1980's have also stepped up as you would expect.

Yes, as Christians we have been supporters of Tearfund too for many years. This time I felt an affinity with these other two smaller charities who are directly involved with what is particularly on my heart i.e. helping seriously injured Palestinian children go abroad to get the urgent surgical care they need, rather than a more general humanitarian aid approach (which is no less vital of course and where Tearfund via IHP are working).

[truthpaste]

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A very brave guy to speak up like that I should think, especially considering where he is employed.

Thanks for the other articles - unbelievably harrowing stuff.

Now we have the Syrian uprising situation to add to the mix. I have been speaking with our Syrian refugee family today about this latest news as they still have relatives in the Deraa district which is where the rebel fighters are now. The Syrian mum's mother is living near Deraa City and she told the family over the phone last night that there are armed rebels where she is and she is scared. On the news we see a mixture of reactions from the people - some are euphoric with joy and others are scared, fleeing from their homes. On the one hand the family will be pleased to see Assad toppled (the civil war was the reason they fled their home in 2013 and ended up in Wales) but they are conscious of the likely chaotic future for their country with so many different factions involved - nightmare.

I suspect Assad will do a runner soon as Damascus will be next. I assume he would not be universally accepted elsewhere - Russia or Iran?

Do you have any information on how much the population has dropped in Damascus over recent years?

[chrisp_1927]

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Hezbollah reeling, Assad gone, Hamas Fooked. It's all gone wrong for the ayatollahs since October 7th! Tough times amongst the elite in Tehran

[Gofer Blue]

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Do you have any information on how much the population has dropped in Damascus over recent years?

I had a quick look on the web. In 2010 (pre civil war) the population of Damascus was 2,694,000 and this year is 2,685,000 so not much change it seems.

[Gofer Blue]

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Hezbollah reeling, Assad gone, Hamas Fooked. It's all gone wrong for the ayatollahs since October 7th! Tough times amongst the elite in Tehran

Assad gone, and so suddenly. A classic case of unexpected consequences. Sadly it could all end up as a case of Iraq Mk.2 with all the different factions battling for power.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Assad gone, and so suddenly. A classic case of unexpected consequences. Sadly it could all end up as a case of Iraq Mk.2 with all the different factions battling for power.

It's possibly the best opportunity for the Kurds to have their own state.

[Gofer Blue]

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It's possibly the best opportunity for the Kurds to have their own state.

Also an opportunity for Turkish-backed groups to have a pop at the Kurds! Happy days.