40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[jon1959]

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I have already commented on the complexities and atrocities of the war and the part that both sides have played in it; the people of Palestine have been the victims in a mission carefully planned and exectuted by Hamas, who knew how Israel would respond and what that would mean for the everyday people of Palestine.
While the terrible suffering of families on both sides of the boarder is unacceptable and ultimately unnecessary, we are now discussing the response and the financial means to respond appropriately; particularly from those in the same worldwide spiritual camp.

You have already commented many, many times on your belief that Israel has some 'divine' right to occupy the whole of Palestine and many adjoining countries. You talk about a real estate deal with God signed off in the Bible. You endorse ethnic cleansing and have already commented that you think Israel has exercised remarkable restraint in the way it has cleansed non Jews from their (Arab) historic lands. You think an immigrant from New York City has more right to a Palestinian home on the West Bank than the Palestinians whose families have lived there for millennia.

You have done a bit of faux liberal hand wringing at tens of thousands of dead civilians, but have made clear that you are really a full on cheerleader for genocide and other war crimes by 'the Chosen People', and anyway it was Hamas who bombed the babies (by making Israel do it). Although you do regret the downside that Israel has disgusted most of the world with its actions - but on the upside, this will bring on the End Of Days when something significant in your fantasy world happens.

You are right of course that the conflict did not start on 7 October, and that the regimes around Israel/Palestine have done little to help the people of the occupied West Bank, the blockaded and now devastated Gaza Strip or the second class Arab citizens of Israel. Although as you know 'the same worldwide spiritual camp' tag does not apply to many of the people starved and murdered by the Israeli state. Some have no faith; others belong to a group called Christians!

[jeepster]

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You have already commented many, many times on your belief that Israel has some 'divine' right to occupy the whole of Palestine and many adjoining countries. You talk about a real estate deal with God signed off in the Bible. You endorse ethnic cleansing and have already commented that you think Israel has exercised remarkable restraint in the way it has cleansed non Jews from their (Arab) historic lands. You think an immigrant from New York City has more right to a Palestinian home on the West Bank than the Palestinians whose families have lived there for millennia.

You have done a bit of faux liberal hand wringing at tens of thousands of dead civilians, but have made clear that you are really a full on cheerleader for genocide and other war crimes by 'the Chosen People', and anyway it was Hamas who bombed the babies (by making Israel do it). Although you do regret the downside that Israel has disgusted most of the world with its actions - but on the upside, this will bring on the End Of Days when something significant in your fantasy world happens.

You are right of course that the conflict did not start on 7 October, and that the regimes around Israel/Palestine have done little to help the people of the occupied West Bank, the blockaded and now devastated Gaza Strip or the second class Arab citizens of Israel. Although as you know 'the same worldwide spiritual camp' tag does not apply to many of the people starved and murdered by the Israeli state. Some have no faith; others belong to a group called Christians!

Wish i could put how i feel like this.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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You have already commented many, many times on your belief that Israel has some 'divine' right to occupy the whole of Palestine and many adjoining countries. You talk about a real estate deal with God signed off in the Bible. You endorse ethnic cleansing and have already commented that you think Israel has exercised remarkable restraint in the way it has cleansed non Jews from their (Arab) historic lands. You think an immigrant from New York City has more right to a Palestinian home on the West Bank than the Palestinians whose families have lived there for millennia.

You have done a bit of faux liberal hand wringing at tens of thousands of dead civilians, but have made clear that you are really a full on cheerleader for genocide and other war crimes by 'the Chosen People', and anyway it was Hamas who bombed the babies (by making Israel do it). Although you do regret the downside that Israel has disgusted most of the world with its actions - but on the upside, this will bring on the End Of Days when something significant in your fantasy world happens.

You are right of course that the conflict did not start on 7 October, and that the regimes around Israel/Palestine have done little to help the people of the occupied West Bank, the blockaded and now devastated Gaza Strip or the second class Arab citizens of Israel. Although as you know 'the same worldwide spiritual camp' tag does not apply to many of the people starved and murdered by the Israeli state. Some have no faith; others belong to a group called Christians!

[the other bob wilson]

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You have already commented many, many times on your belief that Israel has some 'divine' right to occupy the whole of Palestine and many adjoining countries. You talk about a real estate deal with God signed off in the Bible. You endorse ethnic cleansing and have already commented that you think Israel has exercised remarkable restraint in the way it has cleansed non Jews from their (Arab) historic lands. You think an immigrant from New York City has more right to a Palestinian home on the West Bank than the Palestinians whose families have lived there for millennia.

You have done a bit of faux liberal hand wringing at tens of thousands of dead civilians, but have made clear that you are really a full on cheerleader for genocide and other war crimes by 'the Chosen People', and anyway it was Hamas who bombed the babies (by making Israel do it). Although you do regret the downside that Israel has disgusted most of the world with its actions - but on the upside, this will bring on the End Of Days when something significant in your fantasy world happens.

You are right of course that the conflict did not start on 7 October, and that the regimes around Israel/Palestine have done little to help the people of the occupied West Bank, the blockaded and now devastated Gaza Strip or the second class Arab citizens of Israel. Although as you know 'the same worldwide spiritual camp' tag does not apply to many of the people starved and murdered by the Israeli state. Some have no faith; others belong to a group called Christians!

Well said Jon.

[stevo]

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Indeed, well said.

The fact that Truthpaste is happy to pin all the devastation in Gaza on Hamas alone just leaves me speechless. And he calls himself a Christian.

[stevo]

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yet if Israel had the land originally deeded to them

Can you tell us a little bit more about that?

[Dave Blue]

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Indeed, well said.

The fact that Truthpaste is happy to pin all the devastation in Gaza on Hamas alone just leaves me speechless. And he calls himself a Christian.

As a Christian, he doesn’t seem like a Christian to be honest. Not a good spokesperson for my beliefs.

[truthpaste]

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As a Christian, he doesn’t seem like a Christian to be honest. Not a good spokesperson for my beliefs.

The term 'Christian' is one of the most abused terms in the english language; so I'm not sure what you are objecting to, but so we can cut through any denominational fog, and maybe we also have a very different poistion on eschatology, yet what do you think I have said which is unbiblical?

[stevo]

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As a Christian, he doesn’t seem like a Christian to be honest. Not a good spokesperson for my beliefs.

[truthpaste]

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To reply to Jon's comments which go from the accurate to sweeping false statements then let me deal with them separately:-

You have already commented many, many times on your belief that Israel has some 'divine' right to occupy the whole of Palestine and many adjoining countries. You talk about a real estate deal with God signed off in the Bible.
Correct, and you won't share that view because you don't have any respect for God's Word.

You endorse ethnic cleansing and have already commented that you think Israel has exercised remarkable restraint in the way it has cleansed non Jews from their (Arab) historic lands.
A lie, as I have said that neither side is faultless and in fact Israel has a history all the way back to Abraham of both great and dreadful periods of history which is also true of the majority of nations.

Although you do regret the downside that Israel has disgusted most of the world with its actions - but on the upside, this will bring on the End Of Days when something significant in your fantasy world happens.
And then you contradict yourself by recalling that I did condemn Israel! But you were annoyed that this could potentially challenge your world view if it then links into the timetable that promised that Israel a return to the Land and the dozens of other 2,500 year old precise prophecies that have already come true.

You are right of course that the conflict did not start on 7 October, and that the regimes around Israel/Palestine have done little to help the people of the occupied West Bank, the blockaded and now devastated Gaza Strip or the second class Arab citizens of Israel. Although as you know 'the same worldwide spiritual camp' tag does not apply to many of the people starved and murdered by the Israeli state. Some have no faith; others belong to a group called Christians!
As with all contries there is a mix, however they are mainly Islamic and ruled by an Islamic power that they (or their parents) elected.

[truthpaste]

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Can you tell us a little bit more about that?

This explains it well with references at the bottom if you'd like to study it in more depth.

ISRAEL - THE PROMISE FROM GOD

[stevo]

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Thanks for that. So, that all comes from the Old Testament. But the Jews then went on to reject Jesus as the son of God, which leads us to the New Testament, so why do you appear to care so much for Jews over Muslims?

[jeepster]

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This explains it well with references at the bottom if you'd like to study it in more depth.

ISRAEL - THE PROMISE FROM GOD

How can you be promised any thing by someone who is not real?
Is it like easter eggs from the bunny,gifts from santa.

[truthpaste]

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Thanks for that. So, that all comes from the Old Testament. But the Jews then went on to reject Jesus as the son of God, which leads us to the New Testament, so why do you appear to care so much for Jews over Muslims?

That's a very pertinent and quality question. The short answer is that every genuine Christian serves and worships a Man who was born a Jew and will return as the 'Lion of the Tribe of Judah'.
I promise you I will give you a proper and full answer to such a good question, but as I am taking my daughter to catch a plane at 5am tomorrow then I'd better sign off now and get back to you across this Easter weekend.
Have a good one

[jon1959]

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You endorse ethnic cleansing and have already commented that you think Israel has exercised remarkable restraint in the way it has cleansed non Jews from their (Arab) historic lands.

A lie, as I have said that neither side is faultless and in fact Israel has a history all the way back to Abraham of both great and dreadful periods of history which is also true of the majority of nations.

Not a lie at all. You made exactly the claim I said in a post last year. (Your response avoids the point).

It left me wondering about your Taliban-style Christianity and your fundamentalist (another thread, I know) Christian Zionism that puts you in lockstep with Israeli fascists and the racist far right of MAGA Republicans.

It was the chicken and egg question. Is your belief system a product of your politics, or do your political positions come from your belief system?

Either way it is indefensible.

It doesn't matter if all you do with what is in your head is shout at traffic lights. But you claim to be very active across a lot of social media peddling these views. Whilst some may be grateful for being battered over the head with biblical quotes, it is the real life consequences of what you preach that counts. At this time the consequences are mass murder (over 70% of the 40,000+ deaths are women and children), displacement, pain, starvation and terror.