The Liberal Democrats

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Unless Proportional Representation is brought in they are forever going to be a minor party or a protest vote

Very poor showing again last night

Shame as I think a strong Liberal party within a left of centre opposition would represent a lot of ordinary voters

They may well form part of a coalition with Labour if Starmer doesn't get enough seats

Many would be happy with that as long as it kept out the blue rabble

[Jordi Culé]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

Unless Proportional Representation is brought in they are forever going to be a minor party or a protest vote

Very poor showing again last night

Shame as I think a strong Liberal party within a left of centre opposition would represent a lot of ordinary voters

They may well form part of a coalition with Labour if Starmer doesn't get enough seats

Many would be happy with that as long as it kept out the blue rabble

You say that but the last time the Liberals had a chance of keeping the Tories out they ended up jumping into bed with them and we've all ended up being fuucked by the Tories ever since.

I wonder what that cuunt Clegg is doing now? Toes up hopefully.

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Re: The Liberal Democrats

You say that but the last time the Liberals had a chance of keeping the Tories out they ended up jumping into bed with them and we've all ended up being fuucked by the Tories ever since.

I wonder what that cuunt Clegg is doing now? Toes up hopefully.

The liberals wanted to team up with labour but brown wasn't interested

So they shagged the devil and got bit

[jon1959]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

You say that but the last time the Liberals had a chance of keeping the Tories out they ended up jumping into bed with them and we've all ended up being fuucked by the Tories ever since.

I wonder what that cuunt Clegg is doing now? Toes up hopefully.

Still selling his soul to Facebook isn't he?

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Re: The Liberal Democrats

Still selling his soul to Facebook isn't he?

Who was the tall ginger Scottish liberal of that time ?

Cameron was a used car salesman

[JamesWales]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

You say that but the last time the Liberals had a chance of keeping the Tories out they ended up jumping into bed with them and we've all ended up being fuucked by the Tories ever since.

I wonder what that cuunt Clegg is doing now? Toes up hopefully.

Forgotten what life was like in 2008-2010 have you?!

[Dorcus]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

I don't even know what the Lib Dems stand for. At least with the Tories/Labour it's pretty clear cut: Tories stand for inequality and greed; Labour stands for fairness and justice. But what exactly floats your average Lib Dem's boat? I'm buggered if I know.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

Forgotten what life was like in 2008-2010 have you?!

No, I remember quite well, you?

[JamesWales]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

No, I remember quite well, you?

Yeah, I had a few mates lose their jobs. One had a House repossessed.

I remember expenses scandals, cut backs, low morale, airlines going bust when people were abroad, a pretty severe recession, lads dying in Afghanistan, house price collapse, negative equity, bank bailouts using our money, unemployment being far higher than it is now.

Was no picnic. The world hasn't been the same since before the 2008 crash really.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

Yeah, I had a few mates lose their jobs. One had a House repossessed.

I remember expenses scandals, cut backs, low morale, airlines going bust when people were abroad, a pretty severe recession, lads dying in Afghanistan, house price collapse, negative equity, bank bailouts using our money, unemployment being far higher than it is now.

Was no picnic. The world hasn't been the same since before the 2008 crash really.

Thank fuuck that Clegg then decided to hang out of Cameron's arse to make the UK a better place!

It's been an absolute ball since.

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Re: The Liberal Democrats

Yeah, I had a few mates lose their jobs. One had a House repossessed.

I remember expenses scandals, cut backs, low morale, airlines going bust when people were abroad, a pretty severe recession, lads dying in Afghanistan, house price collapse, negative equity, bank bailouts using our money, unemployment being far higher than it is now.

Was no picnic. The world hasn't been the same since before the 2008 crash really.

You remember faaack all then

Because as you keep trying to tell us you voted for Labour then

So any of literal analysis needs to be viewed with half an eye closed

[JamesWales]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

You remember faaack all then

Because as you keep trying to tell us you voted for Labour then

So any of literal analysis needs to be viewed with half an eye closed

2010 I think I voted Lib Dem.

I've just checked..

The economy declined five quarters in a row.

Average wages fell. Not accounting for inflation. The actual average wage fell.

Unemployment was 8%. Youth unemployment 20%. Both pretty much double the last few years.

Consumer confidence hit -40.

Covid aside, 2008-10 were the worst years in recent history in many respects.

Anyone who thought that was automatically fixed by a change of government was wrong. Anyone who thinks that now is the same.

Not to say there aren't other benefits of change, but the fundamentals won't change.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

2010 I think I voted Lib Dem.

I've just checked..

The economy declined five quarters in a row.

Average wages fell. Not accounting for inflation. The actual average wage fell.

Unemployment was 8%. Youth unemployment 20%. Both pretty much double the last few years.

Consumer confidence hit -40.

Covid aside, 2008-10 were the worst years in recent history in many respects.

Anyone who thought that was automatically fixed by a change of government was wrong. Anyone who thinks that now is the same.

Not to say there aren't other benefits of change, but the fundamentals won't change.

2008 - 10, global recession, perhaps poorly managed v Brexit and Truss where the UK 'powers that be' committed economic hari Kiri.

[JamesWales]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

2008 - 10, global recession, perhaps poorly managed v Brexit and Truss where the UK 'powers that be' committed economic hari Kiri.

It's just this whole "13 years" thing, as if things were good before. They werent, they were worse than anything since.

Global causes yes, but that's the same now.

It's just rhetoric really, but I guess that's politics for you.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: The Liberal Democrats

It's just this whole "13 years" thing, as if things were good before. They werent, they were worse than anything since.

Global causes yes, but that's the same now.

It's just rhetoric really, but I guess that's politics for you.

Truss tanking the economy wasn't global neither was Brexit.

The 13 years thing, the only person to mention it in this thread is you.

That said the UK economy performed strongly from 1997 up to the recession in 2008.