20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Why did they all click their mouse buttons in anger then if there's no point?
Surely, like you, they should have got up saturday morning and done something, given that the majority of Wales is up in arms
Although yes, comical, I do feel sorry for you and the other 49 who were badly let down on Saturday.

I wouldn't waste my time you loon, why would anyone?

Half a million have told him they don't like it, they don't care they have thickos like you that agree with anything he tells you.

[superfeathers]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

I wouldn't waste my time you loon, why would anyone?

Half a million have told him they don't like it, they don't care they have thickos like you that agree with anything he tells you.

Not sure that throwing insults adds anything to your argument but each to their own.
Given the amount of time you spend bringing up 20mph in any post that you can, it clearly means a lot to you, so I presumed you'd have gone to a protest, that's all.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Not sure that throwing insults adds anything to your argument but each to their own.
Given the amount of time you spend bringing up 20mph in any post that you can, it clearly means a lot to you, so I presumed you'd have gone to a protest, that's all.

No I will never protest in my life it's a waste of time, most politicians do what they like but, hopefully, people raising the subject regularly on message boards and social media will cost them votes and their jobs.

I would imagine that constantly reading how fed up people are would have a greater impact than a few sados crawling down the motorway.

[superfeathers]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

No I will never protest in my life it's a waste of time, most politicians do what they like but, hopefully, people raising the subject regularly on message boards and social media will cost them votes and their jobs.

I would imagine that constantly reading how fed up people are would have a greater impact than a few sados crawling down the motorway.

That's fair enough, totally disagree but if you don't want to protest that's up to you. Can't fault your online commitment that's for sure.
It has to be said though that of the 400k, even 1% of the online clicks had turned up to protest, it would've been very noticeable. Imagine if 1% of the majority had turned up, not just the clickers. The fact that less than 50 people turned up (and even managed to balls that up), gives the impression to people like me that generally, most people couldn't care less.

[Trigger]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Not sure why we need to take the piss out of people that feel strongly enough to protest, even if it's something you don't agree with (within reason of course). Good on them, Wales/UK needs far more of these people. Most of us just eat shit from WAG/Central government. Particularly in Wales with the one party state we have.

People taking the piss probably wouldn't show up to a cause they were interested in either.

I'm on the fence about the 20, I don't think it is particularly necessary but on most of my routes I'm also well used to barely getting above that anyway. I didn't sign the petition but it's very clear why far far more people will do that than want to show up and drive 20 on the m4 or even show up anywhere physically.

I'm more against the shambles of how they have deployed it, some roads still not fully signed correctly throughout, others dip in and out of 30 with no noticeable difference to the nature of the street. Just feels like as with most things by WAG it's half arsed. If you're doing it at least do it properly.

[the other bob wilson]

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In 2021, the number of people eligible to vote in Wales was just under 2,350,000 according to this (presumably, it’s risen slightly since then).

https://www.gov.wales/electoral-roll-2021

If we make the questionable assumption that all who have signed the petition are eligible to vote in Wales, that means that around twenty per cent of Welsh voters have signed it. That hardly justifies the triumphalist tone of a small minority on here who talk as if the whole country is up in arms about the new speed limit.

I’ll repeat that my view is that the 20 mph I speed limit is uncalled for, but I’m not that bothered about it and the sort of Party politicking seen from some on here only makes me less likely to sign any petition .

[Rjk]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

In 2021, the number of people eligible to vote in Wales was just under 2,350,000 according to this (presumably, it’s risen slightly since then).

https://www.gov.wales/electoral-roll-2021

If we make the questionable assumption that all who have signed the petition are eligible to vote in Wales, that means that around twenty per cent of Welsh voters have signed it. That hardly justifies the triumphalist tone of a small minority on here who talk as if the whole country is up in arms about the new speed limit.

I’ll repeat that my view is that the 20 mph I speed limit is uncalled for, but I’m not that bothered about it and the sort of Party politicking seen from some on here only makes me less likely to sign any petition .

I think most people have realised how little it effects their day to day lives by now.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

In 2021, the number of people eligible to vote was just under 2,350,000 according to this (presumably, it’s risen slightly since then).

https://www.gov.wales/electoral-roll-2021

If we make the questionable assumption that all who have signed the petition are eligible to vote in Wales, that means that around twenty per cent of Welsh voters have signed it. That hardly justifies the triumphalist tone of a small minority on here who talk as if the whole country is up in arms about the new speed limit.

I’ll repeat that my view is that the 20 mph I speed limit is uncalled for, but I’m not that bothered about it and the sort of Party politicking seen from some on here only makes me less likely to sign any petition .

Give it a rest Bob, if you've ventured outside the house and spoken to drivers 90% will tell you how stupid it is.

By that daft logic, most people in Wales think murders are great because they haven't signed a petition saying they are against murder!

[The Bloop]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Give it a rest Bob, if you've ventured outside the house and spoken to drivers 90% will tell you how stupid it is.

By that daft logic, most people in Wales think murders are great because they haven't signed a petition saying they are against murder!

You're calling out Tobw for making a questionable assumption, then make one of your own. 😁

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

You're calling out Tobw for making a questionable assumption, then make one of your own. ��

No for talking nonsense and correcting him by pointing out how daft the logic was.

He's conflicted on this, he knows deep down it was daft and not a priority but he's trying to find ways to back it as it's Drippy's policy.

He's good on the football mind

[the other bob wilson]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Give it a rest Bob, if you've ventured outside the house and spoken to drivers 90% will tell you how stupid it is.

By that daft logic, most people in Wales think murders are great because they haven't signed a petition saying they are against murder!

Give its rest - so says the bloke who has spent more time rabbiting on about this than any one else on this board.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

You're calling out Tobw for making a questionable assumption, then make one of your own. ��

No, be fair, he’s probably spoken to every driver in Wales and that ninety per cent figure is accurate

[superfeathers]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

No, be fair, he’s probably spoken to every driver in Wales and that ninety per cent figure is accurate

Hence such a big turnout at the protest

[Tuerto]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Hence such a big turnout at the protest

You've had a stormer in this thread, had me chuckling away

[JamesWales]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Wales is literally the butt of a theme parks joke now..

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/english-theme-parks-bizarre-offer-28009179