20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

It's an odd protest but unless I'm mistaken the last one didnt actually slow people down (unlike what they are protesting about) or stop people going about their lives (unlike what Just Stop Oil, who others have mentioned do). So it doesn't seem worth people getting too upset about.

What do the police say about it?

It seems daft, it would be better to get all the banger racers in the UK, and smash all the cars doing twenty out of the way so people could go about their business at a normal speed.

[The Bloop]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

That's not right is it, there are a thousand cars to every bus, and they both get one lane each, so obviously the cars are stuck in traffic and the bus lanes are empty.

So because the cars are stuck in traffic, which doesnt include buses as theyre in a different lane, then you acknowledge that cars are the problem as they are the traffic.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

So because the cars are stuck in traffic, which doesnt include buses as theyre in a different lane, then you acknowledge that cars are the problem as they are the traffic.

No the lack of lanes is the problem, take the bus lanes out, and everyone gets a fair chance to move, why should three people on a bus get priority over 1000 people in cars?

Wales are trying to kill the car with their blanket anti-car measures, which us stupid as our public transport is useless bar the trains when they are not on strike.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

So because the cars are stuck in traffic, which doesnt include buses as theyre in a different lane, then you acknowledge that cars are the problem as they are the traffic.

No, the problems is the designated lanes. If you want a good laugh drive down Penhill onto Cathedral Road at a morning or evening rush hour. The traffic backs up all the way down Cathedral Road and usually there are 5 or 6 buses stationery in traffic because it's all going into 1 lane further up. Whereas before they sectioned Penhill off the buses would proceed slowly but steadily up the hill, now they're stuck 500yds away in solid traffic..

[Heathblue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

The trains are great, but they are on strike half the time, poor train drivers how are they supposed to manage on £60K a year!

Only 2nd day, the train was announced as canceled as I got on the platform this morning!!!
A quick walk over to low level for the next train but had to change at queen Street to get to central to connect with destination train.

[Canton Kev]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

It's an odd protest but unless I'm mistaken the last one didnt actually slow people down (unlike what they are protesting about) or stop people going about their lives (unlike what Just Stop Oil, who others have mentioned do). So it doesn't seem worth people getting too upset about.

What do the police say about it?

If going 20 in a 70 zone didn’t slow people down, doesn’t it kind of ruin the whole argument about journey times being drastically increased by changing 30 zones to 20?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Only 2nd day, the train was announced as canceled as I got on the platform this morning!!!
A quick walk over to low level for the next train but had to change at queen Street to get to central to connect with destination train.

You are lucky there, Heath has access to both lines, and you have the best public transport options in Cardiff

But if you have to see someone in Rumney or Ely you'd need a car, public transport is not a viable option for those types of journeys.

[JamesWales]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

If going 20 in a 70 zone didn’t slow people down, doesn’t it kind of ruin the whole argument about journey times being drastically increased by changing 30 zones to 20?

No because where there is 2 or 3 lanes you can go round them whereas on a single lane you can't. It does sound dangerous though, I don't know if the police approve it?!

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

No because where there is 2 or 3 lanes you can go round them whereas on a single lane you can't. It does sound dangerous though, I don't know if the police approve it?!

Surely they will drive three wide and block all lanes otherwise whats the point?

[superfeathers]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

No because where there is 2 or 3 lanes you can go round them whereas on a single lane you can't. It does sound dangerous though, I don't know if the police approve it?!

If that's the case how would it not slow people down?
And if it didn't slow people down, what's the point?

[Wozza16]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

The world is falling apart and these people are protesting a 20mph speed limit. I despair.

Exactly that, people should be protesting about the £5billion that Wales has been robbed of by Westminster that could be used for doctors, nurses, schools and transport improvements but small minds obsess about their 15 minute drive taking 30 seconds longer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Exactly that, people should be protesting about the £5billion that Wales has been robbed of by Westminster that could be used for doctors, nurses, schools and transport improvements but small minds obsess about their 15 minute drive taking 30 seconds longer.

I think he was talking about the thousands of deaths in the middle east rather than Welsh independence

[JamesWales]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

If that's the case how would it not slow people down?
And if it didn't slow people down, what's the point?

The point, I assume, like most protests before the selfish twats from JSO started is to create a conversation and make a noise etc. Which is working.

I dunno, but I gather they only went in the slow lane.

I'm surprised it's allowed as I don't think roads are places for protests whatever it is

[JamesWales]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Exactly that, people should be protesting about the £5billion that Wales has been robbed of by Westminster that could be used for doctors, nurses, schools and transport improvements but small minds obsess about their 15 minute drive taking 30 seconds longer.

Why don't you protest their protest to tell them what they should be protesting about?

What is this £5bn anyway?

[Heathblue]

Re: 20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

Exactly that, people should be protesting about the £5billion that Wales has been robbed of by Westminster that could be used for doctors, nurses, schools and transport improvements but small minds obsess about their 15 minute drive taking 30 seconds longer.

Doctors, schools and nurses? Perhaps you meant quangos.