"From the river to the sea" chant

[JamesWales]

Not really on is it? I feel deeply uncomfortable and pretty sad about that being chanted so widely on the streets of Britain.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Not really on is it? I feel deeply uncomfortable and pretty sad about that being chanted so widely on the streets of Britain.

Well it depends on your perspective

People who want a free Palestine sing it in support of those in gaza

People who are anti Semitic......very different to being pro Palestine and sometimes sing it to intimidate people of Jewish origin

The press have jumped on the song as a reflection of the latter

But that's not a correct conclusion in many cases

[jon1959]

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Not really on is it? I feel deeply uncomfortable and pretty sad about that being chanted so widely on the streets of Britain.

Well you shouldn't.

https://www.voice.wales/from-the-river-to-the-sea-the-true-history-of-a-famous-slogan-for-palestine/

[Dave Blue]

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Well it depends on your perspective

People who want a free Palestine sing it in support of those in gaza

People who are anti Semitic......very different to being pro Palestine and sometimes sing it to intimidate people of Jewish origin

The press have jumped on the song as a reflection of the latter

But that's not a correct conclusion in many cases

The press have jumped on just about anything that doesn’t back Israel’s right to pulverise the Gaza Strip and everything/everyone in it, innocent or not.

[Dorcus]

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The press have jumped on just about anything that doesn’t back Israel’s right to pulverise the Gaza Strip and everything/everyone in it, innocent or not.

Absolutely right and it's sickening

[Dorcus]

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Not really on is it? I feel deeply uncomfortable and pretty sad about that being chanted so widely on the streets of Britain.

Man United fans used to sing something similar back in the day..."From the banks of the river Irwell.."

[JamesWales]

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Well you shouldn't.

https://www.voice.wales/from-the-riv...for-palestine/

I know who Adam Johannes is. He's a nice guy, American I think, but basically at the forefront of every left-wing protest in Cardiff, so I'm not sure his interpretation is the one everyone uses.

To me it's hard not to view it as proposing the end of Israel, which puts it on the same par as those who want to see the end of Palestine for me.

Maybe it's just unfortunate wording, but I think it's uncomfortable listening to that being chanted so widely. Doesn't help.

[Dorcus]

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I think it's very sad when a certain cohort of people get themselves in a lather over mere words borne out of repression and enforced misery yet appear strangely unmoved by the images of defenseless innocents being routinely slaughtered.

[JamesWales]

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I think it's very sad when a certain cohort of people get themselves in a lather over mere words borne out of repression and enforced misery yet appear strangely unmoved by the images of defenseless innocents being routinely slaughtered.

I suspected you wouldn't get it.

[Dorcus]

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I suspected you wouldn't get it.

No I think you rather feared I would: and you'd be correct to be nervous.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I know who Adam Johannes is. He's a nice guy, American I think, but basically at the forefront of every left-wing protest in Cardiff, so I'm not sure his interpretation is the one everyone uses.

To me it's hard not to view it as proposing the end of Israel, which puts it on the same par as those who want to see the end of Palestine for me.

Maybe it's just unfortunate wording, but I think it's uncomfortable listening to that being chanted so widely. Doesn't help.

If Israel continue to bomb its going to get louder

In some ways it's all that people have got

I am more concerned about the bombing of hospitals and people in convoys heading south , following instructions from Israel

Far worse than what you describe as an unpleasant chant

I mean you are joking ?

[JamesWales]

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If Israel continue to bomb its going to get louder

In some ways it's all that people have got

I am more concerned about the bombing of hospitals and people in convoys heading south , following instructions from Israel

Far worse than what you describe as an unpleasant chant

I mean you are joking ?

Sludge is your lack of self awareness such that you don't realise what you spend your time endlessly moaning about on here? There are always far more important things, so you don't get to play that card, esp when you were fuming about Kay Burley and demanding she be sacked the other day.

The recognised solution here is a two-state solution. Chants like this don't remotely help achieve that, and they also are more likely to be used by Israel to justify what they are doing.

It's gross.

[Dorcus]

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Sludge is your lack of self awareness such that you don't realise what you spend your time endlessly moaning about on here? There are always far more important things, so you don't get to play that card, esp when you were fuming about Kay Burley and demanding she be sacked the other day.

The recognised solution here is a two-state solution. Chants like this don't remotely help achieve that, and they also are more likely to be used by Israel to justify what they are doing.

It's gross.

James that's pretty lame, even by your standards.

[JamesWales]

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James that's pretty lame, even by your standards.

It's not though is it. It's pretty accurate.

[Jordi Culé]

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Sludge is your lack of self awareness such that you don't realise what you spend your time endlessly moaning about on here? There are always far more important things, so you don't get to play that card, esp when you were fuming about Kay Burley and demanding she be sacked the other day.

The recognised solution here is a two-state solution. Chants like this don't remotely help achieve that, and they also are more likely to be used by Israel to justify what they are doing.

It's gross.

“Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty”

Part of the Likud Party charter.

I'd suggest that's more of a hindrance to a two party state than woke lefties chanting something in London?