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  • #16
    Re: Matt Hancock

    Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Wow you’re that gullible aren’t you.

    Have they mentioned off the top of my head -

    Excess deaths rising exponentially

    Inflated case numbers (which resulted in needless lockdown’s) with a $2 testing kit which you could receive in the post which was very inaccurate - yet they continued to use them to justify their own actions

    The impact of children’s mental health and well being

    The impact on the economy

    The environmental impacts of masks and plastic testing kits.

    The use of midasolam in care homes

    The censorship of information that didn’t fit the agenda of the government

    I could give you ten pages of negatives but I highly doubt they will be discussed

    I suspect with your footprint, you liked being equal though that’s the case in point sadly.
    excess deaths is a cause of concern yet seems to be brushed under the carpet at the minute

    not only Dr John reporting on this but quite a few medical experts around the world

    Lets hope the next 6 to 12 months data will be scrutinized in more detail by the government bodies around the world to get to the root cause

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    • #17
      Re: Matt Hancock

      Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
      excess deaths is a cause of concern yet seems to be brushed under the carpet at the minute

      not only Dr John reporting on this but quite a few medical experts around the world

      Lets hope the next 6 to 12 months data will be scrutinized in more detail by the government bodies around the world to get to the root cause
      Top bloke for this is Ed Dowd, he's done some excellent stats using UK. GOV data, not sure if he has a Facebook page 😉.

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      • #18
        Re: Matt Hancock

        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
        You've decided what it's going to say despite the enquiry not being more than 20 per cent completed at this stage.
        I’ve decided what it’s going to say based on what “evidence “ has been presented thus far , it’s unlikely to change much but would be delighted to be proved wrong

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        • #19
          Re: Matt Hancock

          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          You've decided what it's going to say despite the enquiry not being more than 20 per cent completed at this stage.
          This article explains it

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          • #20
            Re: Matt Hancock

            Does anybody not agree with this statement?

            “ In future, we need to focus our efforts on how to immediately put in place protocols to protect the vulnerable population during a pandemic, rather than attempting to implement impracticable measures to stifle the spread of infection everywhere, while blinding ourselves to the extensive collateral damage that comes in their wake" Sunetra Gupta, writing in The Telegraph

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            • #21
              Re: Matt Hancock

              I’ll wait and see what the majority of scientists have to say about that.

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              • #22
                Re: Matt Hancock

                Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                Does anybody not agree with this statement?

                “ In future, we need to focus our efforts on how to immediately put in place protocols to protect the vulnerable population during a pandemic, rather than attempting to implement impracticable measures to stifle the spread of infection everywhere, while blinding ourselves to the extensive collateral damage that comes in their wake" Sunetra Gupta, writing in The Telegraph

                https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...6BWs-P6ojztey8
                Who is she ?

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                • #23
                  Re: Matt Hancock

                  Originally posted by stevo View Post
                  I’ll wait and see what the majority of scientists have to say about that.
                  I can’t see how what she says is what the majority of healthy people think, with young children with families, who work hard and are not at risk to what essentially is a old person’s disease ( average age of a Covid death is higher than the average person’s death)

                  If you think differently and you’re not at risk , you’re not a government bot are you

                  * majority of scientists = those paid the most to follow the government agenda

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                  • #24
                    Re: Matt Hancock

                    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                    Who is she ?
                    https://www.biology.ox.ac.uk/people/...guptaProfessor Sunetra Gupta
                    Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology
                    Oxford University

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                    • #25
                      Re: Matt Hancock

                      Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                      https://www.biology.ox.ac.uk/people/...guptaProfessor Sunetra Gupta
                      Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology
                      Oxford University
                      Is she of sound mind or a conspiracy anti vaxxer nutcase ?

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                      • #26
                        Re: Matt Hancock

                        Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                        i notice this covid enquiry has cost over 114 million quid already and to go on potentially for another 5 years

                        a waste of tax payers money ?
                        Especially as its lost its focus which should be about what we learned and how best to prepare for next one.

                        It appears to be just a blame enquiry.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Matt Hancock

                          Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                          Especially as its lost its focus which should be about what we learned and how best to prepare for next one.

                          It appears to be just a blame enquiry.
                          https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/do...%20June%202022.

                          Here you go. The Terms of Reference as agreed in July 2022 with the then Prime Minister, Boris Johnson.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Matt Hancock

                            I did think Hancock faced down the QC very well, although he is not a likable fella, you could see he is bright albeit in an acedemic way.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Matt Hancock

                              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                              https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/do...%20June%202022.

                              Here you go. The Terms of Reference as agreed in July 2022 with the then Prime Minister, Boris Johnson.
                              Not really bothered about the terms I am more concerned we may not have learned enough if we just bicker, it's interesting though the sciencetists advising government are getting off lightly and we are supposedly lead by them??

                              I don't think anyone had a clue on either side of the politic spectrum, Sage or sciencetists. Starmer, Drakeford, That pathetic self serving Scottish Women.

                              Covid was brighter than all of them.

                              The only bright note was Gove telling the truth, however uncomfortable that was, yes it was a man made mistake... And built in a lab.. In China with Western backing..

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                              • #30
                                Re: Matt Hancock

                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                Who is she ?
                                She simply has a Theory.

                                " Theoretical epidemiologist professor Sunetra Gupta talks to Tom Ireland about alternative models of how and when COVID-19 could have spread through the UK
                                Sunetra Gupta is professor of theoretical epidemiology at Oxford University’s Department of Zoology. Born in Calcutta, she spent her early childhood moving between Ethiopia, Zambia and England. She is also an acclaimed writer, with her fourth novel A Sin of Colour shortlisted for the Orange Prize for Fiction in 2000.

                                After originally studying physics, Gupta became interested in the use of maths in biology, and the evolution of human pathogens – particularly the question of why some, like flu, become extremely diverse. She was mentored by the great mathematician, theoretical ecologist and scientific adviser Lord Robert May, who sadly died this year aged 84, and she later moved into the world of theoretical epidemiology.

                                In March, when epidemiologists from Imperial College London presented projections that up to 250,000 people in the UK could die, it prompted the Government to take urgent and drastic action. Meanwhile a study by Gupta’s group at Oxford suggested a range of different scenarios were possible – including the possibility that the virus had arrived in the UK far earlier than reported, and over half of the UK population had already had it.

                                Gupta argues that without reliable prevalence data, the true picture of how widespread COVID-19 has been across the UK is still unclear. She has also warned that nation-wide lockdowns are having an unacceptable toll on poor people, and favours strict shielding for the sections of the population most susceptible to severe illness instead."

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