TV Licence

[stevo]

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I found this genie from 2021

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-annual-report

Still doesn't offer explanations as to why the numbers are dropping other than:

Mr Davie said the fall in numbers was due to the popularity of alternative methods of viewing programming.

"It's not surprising that when on-demand is burgeoning in the way it is and other services are there, you are going to get some
marginal erosion of people who are not watching a live stream on television," he said.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Can you read ? I’ve told you there are around ten articles referencing the issue I brought up , if you have time do a bit of research yourself. If you think I’m “making things up” why on earth are you taking the time to reply when you are already busy decorating ?

Why are you focusing on one issue only , when clearly there are many other factors- I think you know the reason and it’s hilarious.

It’s well know the challenges facing the BBC include:

Intense scrutiny for its coverage of Brexit, domestic politics, and more, with frequent allegations of bias. If you require links for the above you lack clear thought and understanding of its broader business model.

Poor effort at obfuscation. 0/10

[TWGL1]

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Poor effort at obfuscation. 0/10

Not evasive at all, I just don’t understand why you insist on links to something which is clearly obvious to everyone. Do you live in a cave or something?

[NinianOpinion1927]

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The Beeb can't be losing that many fee payers a month. They're crazy figures

[Dorcus]

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I doubt the BBC is losing "viewers", it's losing a lot of "licence fee payers" and the reason is ludicrously simple.

Since the days when the mere possession of a TV meant the licence fee was applicable there is no effective way for the BBC to enforce payment.

I know many people who regularly watch BBC programmes but don't pay the fee because they've self-declared that they don't watch live TV. The chances of them getting caught nowadays is miniscule while in previous times an Enforcement Officer would only have to see a TV through their window to bang them to rights.

Rightly or wrongly the TV licence is just seen by many as an unnecessary expense which can be evaded during tough economic times.

Personally I'd prefer for it to be funded through taxation.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Not evasive at all, I just don’t understand why you insist on links to something which is clearly obvious to everyone. Do you live in a cave or something?

So it's now just 'clear to everyone' and the 'plenty of evidence' has taken a back seat. Say no more. I'll let you have the last word as you need it.

[jon1959]

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The BBC regularly platforms hard left communists who self identify as communists. Ash Sarkar being a regular on Moral Maze amongst other programmes. They wouldn't dream of platforming the polar opposite of a communist, which would be a Fascist. That's the left wing bias in a nutshell. If the BBC are genuinely platforming genuine Fascists then point me to it. Btw Farage is not a Fascist, he's a free market capitalist.
I have no evidence for this but i think the BEEB broke trust with the viewer over it's hysterical reaction to brexit and the subsequent, continious, platforming of second referendum advocates during the fall out from Brexit.

You have a very odd definition of 'hard left communist'. Ash Sarkar labelling herself as a 'libertarian communist' (whatever that is) should be a clue to her real views - along with her social media profile that identifies her as 'Anarcho-Fabulous. Luxury-Communist. Walks like a supermodel. Kebab aficionado. London.' I have read a bit of her stuff online and seen some clips on Novara Media Youtube but mainly missed her on the BBC. But from what I have seen and read she is not really a communist at all. She is essentially a Corbyn democratic socialist, and was at recently home in the Labour Party.

The polar opposite of Ash Sarkar is anyone from the hard right of the Conservative Party or Reform.

I think you are wrong about the BBC breaking trust, but at least you are honest in saying 'I have no evidence for this but....' If only others with no evidence would also stick to giving a 'personal opinion' and not deflect, dodge and run when asked to back up their claims. I do accept that some people will hold the view that the BBC is a mouthpiece for metropolitan liberals or 'the left' - if they don't decide that for themselves they are bombarded with the claim from most of the Tory press. But I don't see evidence that is a dominant view, or one that explains the loss of BBC viewers.

For what it's worth the public is more likely to the the BBC as right leaning than left - whatever the Daily Mail and Sun tells them!

https://pressgazette.co.uk/comment-analysis/bbc-left-wing-bias/

[TWGL1]

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I doubt the BBC is losing "viewers", it's losing a lot of "licence fee payers" and the reason is ludicrously simple.

Since the days when the mere possession of a TV meant the licence fee was applicable there is no effective way for the BBC to enforce payment.

I know many people who regularly watch BBC programmes but don't pay the fee because they've self-declared that they don't watch live TV. The chances of them getting caught nowadays is miniscule while in previous times an Enforcement Officer would only have to see a TV through their window to bang them to rights.

Rightly or wrongly the TV licence is just seen by many as an unnecessary expense which can be evaded during tough economic times.

Personally I'd prefer for it to be funded through taxation.

Some good points there, enforcement was propaganda quite often and the TV Detection vans were used as propaganda weapons.

I’d prefer if they offered the service rather than make it compulsory. Additional revenue would be generated by advertising etc

[stevo]

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Indeed and probably the reasons why people are turning against the BBC, not because they're lefty.

[TWGL1]

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75,000 per month cannot chiefly be down to financial reasons , otherwise other subscription providers would be losing their revenue drivers for the same reasons.

[TWGL1]

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So it's now just 'clear to everyone' and the 'plenty of evidence' has taken a back seat. Say no more. I'll let you have the last word as you need it.

Really , if you want any more “links “ let me know

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/17/bbc-accused-of-lacking-impartiality-in-royal-coverage

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/news-centre...ebruary%202021.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/news-centre/2022/bbc-must-transform-the-way-it-serves-audiences

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jul/25/ofcom-finds-bbc-guilty-of-impartiality-breaches-over-ruth-davidson-interview

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/05/bbc-coimplaints-bias-25-upheld-out-of-17m-report/

https://variety.com/2022/tv/global/ofcom-bbc-complaints-impartiality-license-consulation-1235300374/

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Communist is the opposite of fascist ? ......and they eventually meet

That's bollocks

Cuba was very far left but it didn't go round killing black people

[NinianOpinion1927]

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You have a very odd definition of 'hard left communist'. Ash Sarkar labelling herself as a 'libertarian communist' (whatever that is) should be a clue to her real views - along with her social media profile that identifies her as 'Anarcho-Fabulous. Luxury-Communist. Walks like a supermodel. Kebab aficionado. London.' I have read a bit of her stuff online and seen some clips on Novara Media Youtube but mainly missed her on the BBC. But from what I have seen and read she is not really a communist at all. She is essentially a Corbyn democratic socialist, and was at recently home in the Labour Party.

The polar opposite of Ash Sarkar is anyone from the hard right of the Conservative Party or Reform.

I think you are wrong about the BBC breaking trust, but at least you are honest in saying 'I have no evidence for this but....' If only others with no evidence would also stick to giving a 'personal opinion' and not deflect, dodge and run when asked to back up their claims. I do accept that some people will hold the view that the BBC is a mouthpiece for metropolitan liberals or 'the left' - if they don't decide that for themselves they are bombarded with the claim from most of the Tory press. But I don't see evidence that is a dominant view, or one that explains the loss of BBC viewers.

For what it's worth the public is more likely to the the BBC as right leaning than left - whatever the Daily Mail and Sun tells them!

https://pressgazette.co.uk/comment-a...eft-wing-bias/

Over the years Ash Sarkar has rebranded herself with a few nice descriptions in order to appear non threatening but when she tells everyone she's a communist, repeatedly over years, it's probably best to believe her instead of imaging what she really means. Politics is her life and career, i think she knows what a communist is. She's hard left and has said some pretty crazy things over the years yet the BBC make her a permenant fixture on Moral Maze and platform her on BBC politics programmes. Where is the right wing fascist equivalent?

[NinianOpinion1927]

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Communist is the opposite of fascist ? ......and they eventually meet

That's bollocks

Cuba was very far left but it didn't go round killing black people

Yes, Communism is opposed to fascism and vice versa. One far left, one far right. That's what ww2 on the Eastern front was about. Communism is not free of blood on their hands. It's estimated that Communism across the globe killed 100 million. 60 million in the Soviet Union since the Bolshevik revolution in 1917.

The BBC regularly platforms communist Ash Sarkar and in the case of the Moral Maze, they discuss impartially, with a straight face communist theory.

[Gofer Blue]

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her social media profile that identifies her as 'Anarcho-Fabulous. Luxury-Communist. Walks like a supermodel. Kebab aficionado. London.'

Uhm, not exactly your typical member of the proletariat then?