Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

[jon1959]

Joe Biden signals he has no interest in signing US-UK trade agreement

Ministers have given up on signing a trade agreement with the US before the next election, after the Biden administration signalled it had no interest in agreeing one.

British officials had been hoping to agree a “foundational trade partnership” before both countries head to the polls in the next 12 months, having already decided not to pursue a full-blown free trade agreement.

However, sources briefed on the talks say they are no longer taking place, thanks to reluctance among senior Democrats to open US markets to more foreign-made goods. The story was first revealed by Politico.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/18/joe-biden-signals-he-has-no-interest-in-signing-us-uk-trade-agreement

Over 7 years since the referendum.

Almost 4 years since the UK left the EU

Over 42 months since the trade deal talks supposedly started.

Result? Nothing!

[TWGL1]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

Joe Biden signals he has no interest in signing US-UK trade agreement

Ministers have given up on signing a trade agreement with the US before the next election, after the Biden administration signalled it had no interest in agreeing one.

British officials had been hoping to agree a “foundational trade partnership” before both countries head to the polls in the next 12 months, having already decided not to pursue a full-blown free trade agreement.

However, sources briefed on the talks say they are no longer taking place, thanks to reluctance among senior Democrats to open US markets to more foreign-made goods. The story was first revealed by Politico.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/18/joe-biden-signals-he-has-no-interest-in-signing-us-uk-trade-agreement

Over 7 years since the referendum.

Almost 4 years since the UK left the EU

Over 42 months since the trade deal talks supposedly started.

Result? Nothing!

I may be wrong here but didn’t a majority vote of free thinking individuals decided the Brexit result after the vote was given to us as part of the democratic process.

Isn’t this the same processes that gave Scotland the vote on independence and like many because the result didn't go the way the minority wanted we still have the fall out.

[jon1959]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

I may be wrong here but didn’t a majority vote of free thinking individuals decided the Brexit result after the vote was given to us as part of the democratic process.

Isn’t this the same processes that gave Scotland the vote on independence and like many because the result didn't go the way the minority wanted we still have the fall out.

I have no idea what your point is.

The Brexit campaign and the post-Brexit May and Johnson governments claimed that as US-UK trade deal (with Trump at the time) would be easy.... would be quick.... would be the crown jewel of trade deals.... and Trump talked his usual bullshit about trade between the UK and US being four or five times higher than pre-Brexit.

It was supposed to be 'oven ready'.

It has been anything but. It has been mired in hard nosed negotiations (and the thread about the NHS and the cost and danger of us opening up to US facilities and drug companies touched on this).

Liz Truss thought it might take as long as the autumn of 2023 to get it done. In the summer Sunak started to play down the idea. Now it has disappeared into the far distance - after US and UK elections.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/06/business/brexit-us-uk-trade-donald-trump-boris-johnson-intl-gbr/index.html

Incompetence, lies (or to be generous, fantasies) and mis-selling = shambles!

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

I have no idea what your point is.

The Brexit campaign and the post-Brexit May and Johnson governments claimed that as US-UK trade deal (with Trump at the time) would be easy.... would be quick.... would be the crown jewel of trade deals.... and Trump talked his usual bullshit about trade between the UK and US being four or five times higher than pre-Brexit.

It was supposed to be 'oven ready'.

It has been anything but. It has been mired in hard nosed negotiations (and the thread about the NHS and the cost and danger of us opening up to US facilities and drug companies touched on this).

Liz Truss thought it might take as long as the autumn of 2023 to get it done. In the summer Sunak started to play down the idea. Now it has disappeared into the far distance - after US and UK elections.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/06/business/brexit-us-uk-trade-donald-trump-boris-johnson-intl-gbr/index.html

Incompetence, lies (or to be generous, fantasies) and mis-selling = shambles!

Talking about fantasies, here is WalesBales's triumphant opening salvo in 2019!

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php?440354-US-UK-discussing-1st-November-trade-deal&highlight=trade+deal

[Dave Blue]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

I may be wrong here but didn’t a majority vote of free thinking individuals decided the Brexit result after the vote was given to us as part of the democratic process.

Isn’t this the same processes that gave Scotland the vote on independence and like many because the result didn't go the way the minority wanted we still have the fall out.

You lost me at ‘free-thinking’

[TWGL1]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

You lost me at ‘free-thinking’

Can’t you read or understand the democratic process ?

[TWGL1]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

Talking about fantasies, here is WalesBales's triumphant opening salvo in 2019!

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...ght=trade+deal

What’s Wales Bales got to do with this post , what are you talking about now , trying to be a **** again right ?

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

What’s Wales Bales got to do with this post , what are you talking about now , trying to be a **** again right ?

You must miss him. Still he was always telling us how gifted he was in predicting the future and how stupid sheeple were in comparison. This is just one example of his overblown hubris.

[Dave Blue]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

Can’t you read or understand the democratic process ?

They were led by the nose with a pack of lies.

[Heathblue]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

Joe Biden signals he has no interest in signing US-UK trade agreement

Ministers have given up on signing a trade agreement with the US before the next election, after the Biden administration signalled it had no interest in agreeing one.

British officials had been hoping to agree a “foundational trade partnership” before both countries head to the polls in the next 12 months, having already decided not to pursue a full-blown free trade agreement.

However, sources briefed on the talks say they are no longer taking place, thanks to reluctance among senior Democrats to open US markets to more foreign-made goods. The story was first revealed by Politico.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/18/joe-biden-signals-he-has-no-interest-in-signing-us-uk-trade-agreement

Over 7 years since the referendum.

Almost 4 years since the UK left the EU

Over 42 months since the trade deal talks supposedly started.

Result? Nothing!

I wouldn't worry about it too much, only another year to wait.
This is a resident who
Has never looked for peace in Ukraine
Isnt interested in sorting out Gaza
A distasterous withdrawal from Afghanistan
Inflation running away
And was going to bring decency to the Whitehouse.
COCAINE found there the other month,
The week gone one of the staffers being filmed
bent over taking some backdoor treatment
One of his skirt wearing but have a dick picks, caught stealing luggage.
The Marco polo report clearly demonstrating his sons disgusting habits, his son defying to turn up for his subpoena last weeks, the 3 junior Trump's turned up and got questioned, the bloke and his family are a disaster and he will be replaced, I'm not so certain it will be big Mike as a web is being cast over the Obama at the moment and their name will be dirt in the not too distant future, one of His staff has recently drowned!!!!!!! on his estate and after the cover up, info is being dripped out, could you just imagine the front page coverage if one of Trump's chef drowned in a swimming pool at Mar a Largo, he knew too much, he was going to the press etc. etc. Here's my Forcast for 2024.

Two cases against Trump will collapse with the prosecutors looking stupid, he still might get porridge however.
The election steal will become clear it cannot be done this time.
Scare events will take place (nuclear)
It's already in the news regularly, a cyber attack will be declared and the election canceled. But counter measures are in place and the US will get paper ballots. The Q brigade are adamant that the military will step in at some point, the reason for Trump creating spaceforce who are outside the branch of government who control the army and airforce, I don't buy this but the cyber attack play book IMO is almost a certainty, the deep state always fore shadow and project, Obama via Netflix has just put out a film on this very subject. I'll person up when I'm wrong, it's no big deal 😂

[MOZZER2]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

I wouldn't worry about it too much, only another year to wait.
This is a resident who
Has never looked for peace in Ukraine
Isnt interested in sorting out Gaza
A distasterous withdrawal from Afghanistan
Inflation running away
And was going to bring decency to the Whitehouse.
COCAINE found there the other month,
The week gone one of the staffers being filmed
bent over taking some backdoor treatment
One of his skirt wearing but have a dick picks, caught stealing luggage.
The Marco polo report clearly demonstrating his sons disgusting habits, his son defying to turn up for his subpoena last weeks, the 3 junior Trump's turned up and got questioned, the bloke and his family are a disaster and he will be replaced, I'm not so certain it will be big Mike as a web is being cast over the Obama at the moment and their name will be dirt in the not too distant future, one of His staff has recently drowned!!!!!!! on his estate and after the cover up, info is being dripped out, could you just imagine the front page coverage if one of Trump's chef drowned in a swimming pool at Mar a Largo, he knew too much, he was going to the press etc. etc. Here's my Forcast for 2024.

Two cases against Trump will collapse with the prosecutors looking stupid, he still might get porridge however.
The election steal will become clear it cannot be done this time.
Scare events will take place (nuclear)
It's already in the news regularly, a cyber attack will be declared and the election canceled. But counter measures are in place and the US will get paper ballots. The Q brigade are adamant that the military will step in at some point, the reason for Trump creating spaceforce who are outside the branch of government who control the army and airforce, I don't buy this but the cyber attack play book IMO is almost a certainty, the deep state always fore shadow and project, Obama via Netflix has just put out a film on this very subject. I'll person up when I'm wrong, it's no big deal ��

Project Killware you heard it here first

[jon1959]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

I wouldn't worry about it too much, only another year to wait.
This is a resident who
Has never looked for peace in Ukraine
Isnt interested in sorting out Gaza
A distasterous withdrawal from Afghanistan
Inflation running away
And was going to bring decency to the Whitehouse.
COCAINE found there the other month,
The week gone one of the staffers being filmed
bent over taking some backdoor treatment
One of his skirt wearing but have a dick picks, caught stealing luggage.
The Marco polo report clearly demonstrating his sons disgusting habits, his son defying to turn up for his subpoena last weeks, the 3 junior Trump's turned up and got questioned, the bloke and his family are a disaster and he will be replaced, I'm not so certain it will be big Mike as a web is being cast over the Obama at the moment and their name will be dirt in the not too distant future, one of His staff has recently drowned!!!!!!! on his estate and after the cover up, info is being dripped out, could you just imagine the front page coverage if one of Trump's chef drowned in a swimming pool at Mar a Largo, he knew too much, he was going to the press etc. etc. Here's my Forcast for 2024.

Two cases against Trump will collapse with the prosecutors looking stupid, he still might get porridge however.
The election steal will become clear it cannot be done this time.
Scare events will take place (nuclear)
It's already in the news regularly, a cyber attack will be declared and the election canceled. But counter measures are in place and the US will get paper ballots. The Q brigade are adamant that the military will step in at some point, the reason for Trump creating spaceforce who are outside the branch of government who control the army and airforce, I don't buy this but the cyber attack play book IMO is almost a certainty, the deep state always fore shadow and project, Obama via Netflix has just put out a film on this very subject. I'll person up when I'm wrong, it's no big deal 😂

Wow!

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

Project Killware you heard it here first

tbf, we heard Giuliani's Georgia census people bollocks here first as well Mozz and that just caught him for 150m!

[Heathblue]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

Wow!

I give you something to extract the urine next year

[stevo]

Re: Another 'Oven-Ready Brexit' Shambles!

I may be wrong here but didn’t a majority vote of free thinking individuals decided the Brexit result after the vote was given to us as part of the democratic process.

Isn’t this the same processes that gave Scotland the vote on independence and like many because the result didn't go the way the minority wanted we still have the fall out.

So, are you saying Brexit is failing because of Remoaners? Okay.