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  • This can’t be right.

    Why are we paying for this?

    The science secretary has accepted her original comments about Professor Kate Sang were wrong.

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    Re: This can’t be right.

    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    It is madness.

    If she libels someone in a personal capacity she pays the damages and costs herself.

    But if she claims to have committed the libel as a government minister, we pay for her!

    Doesn't this breach the ministerial code - or is that so debased now that no one cares?

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    • #3
      Re: This can’t be right.

      Penny Mourdant was shameful yesterday in supporting her

      I thought does she really think we are stupid ?

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      • #4
        Re: This can’t be right.

        No surprise that the board's Conservative voters are giving this thread a wide berth I suppose, but I would have thought something like this goes beyond party politics.

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        • #5
          Re: This can’t be right.

          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          No surprise that the board's Conservative voters are giving this thread a wide berth I suppose, but I would have thought something like this goes beyond party politics.
          who are the conservative voters on here ?

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          • #6
            Re: This can’t be right.

            Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
            who are the conservative voters on here ?
            Well, I would have thought that those who slavishly defend the Government in threads on here are - don't worry, I'm not accusing the Board's "independent thinkers" of being tory voters, they're above such trivial things as party politics unless it's in America.

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            • #7
              Re: This can’t be right.

              Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
              It is madness.

              If she libels someone in a personal capacity she pays the damages and costs herself.

              But if she claims to have committed the libel as a government minister, we pay for her!

              Doesn't this breach the ministerial code - or is that so debased now that no one cares?
              Small change really that 15k.

              NAO says Cabinet Office failed to follow proper processes when taxpayers’ money was used to fund legal bills

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              • #8
                Re: This can’t be right.

                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                Well, I would have thought that those who slavishly defend the Government in threads on here are - don't worry, I'm not accusing the Board's "independent thinkers" of being tory voters, they're above such trivial things as party politics unless it's in America.
                God you are so divisive!
                Agree with me, or you slavishly defend the government!

                Surprised you didn't accuse anyone not in agreement of literally taking the money from babies mouths to pay the bill!

                The reality of course is far simpler. If someone makes a mistake in the course of their job they rarely pick up the tab. The bloke in the council who lays paving that someone trips on won't be sued personally and it's the same here. Thought you supported workers rights?

                Where I would agree is that hopefully it leads to less mudslinging on twitter. Something that demeans every one of us really and will also mean a great many in opposition now will need to wind their necks in if in government!

                It's another thing you've been successfully wound up about whereas what you want to see here would set an extremely dangerous principle that would be far more damaging

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                • #9
                  Re: This can’t be right.

                  Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                  God you are so divisive!
                  Agree with me, or you slavishly defend the government!

                  Surprised you didn't accuse anyone not in agreement of literally taking the money from babies mouths to pay the bill!

                  The reality of course is far simpler. If someone makes a mistake in the course of their job they rarely pick up the tab. The bloke in the council who lays paving that someone trips on won't be sued personally and it's the same here. Thought you supported workers rights?

                  Where I would agree is that hopefully it leads to less mudslinging on twitter. Something that demeans every one of us really and will also mean a great many in opposition now will need to wind their necks in if in government!

                  It's another thing you've been successfully wound up about whereas what you want to see here would set an extremely dangerous principle that would be far more damaging
                  As someone who doesn't get involved in the right v left spats on here, your comparing faulty paving with a very deliberate libel is totally ingenuous.

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                  • #10
                    Re: This can’t be right.

                    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                    Well, I would have thought that those who slavishly defend the Government in threads on here are - don't worry, I'm not accusing the Board's "independent thinkers" of being tory voters, they're above such trivial things as party politics unless it's in America.
                    You really do pick out arguments that suit your agenda and yet stay almost silent on matters that don’t fit with your narrative. It’s hilarious.

                    How about commenting on this whopper or many more if required ?

                    Welsh government admits failing to follow law apparently when cancelling free school meals.

                    Jeremy Miles who wants to be First Minister said they could not afford to do it.

                    But they could afford new road signs for 20mph speed limits (costing more)��

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                    • #11
                      Re: This can’t be right.

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      God you are so divisive!
                      Agree with me, or you slavishly defend the government!

                      Surprised you didn't accuse anyone not in agreement of literally taking the money from babies mouths to pay the bill!

                      The reality of course is far simpler. If someone makes a mistake in the course of their job they rarely pick up the tab. The bloke in the council who lays paving that someone trips on won't be sued personally and it's the same here. Thought you supported workers rights?

                      Where I would agree is that hopefully it leads to less mudslinging on twitter. Something that demeans every one of us really and will also mean a great many in opposition now will need to wind their necks in if in government!

                      It's another thing you've been successfully wound up about whereas what you want to see here would set an extremely dangerous principle that would be far more damaging
                      And here he comes - slavish defender number one!

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                      • #12
                        Re: This can’t be right.

                        Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                        You really do pick out arguments that suit your agenda and yet stay almost silent on matters that don’t fit with your narrative. It’s hilarious.

                        How about commenting on this whopper or many more if required ?

                        Welsh government admits failing to follow law apparently when cancelling free school meals.

                        Jeremy Miles who wants to be First Minister said they could not afford to do it.

                        But they could afford new road signs for 20mph speed limits (costing more)��
                        Once again, no link I see, but, assuming what you say is right, the WAG are wrong in that case, what more do you want me to say?

                        That's more than you'll ever get from the slavish defenders of the Westminster Government mind.

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                        • #13
                          Re: This can’t be right.

                          Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                          As someone who doesn't get involved in the right v left spats on here, your comparing faulty paving with a very deliberate libel is totally ingenuous.
                          Absolutely spot on. Even the most swivel eyed Tory must be able to comprehend the difference between a genuine error during the execution of work and a deliberately provocative and idiotic attack?

                          The self-serving, intellectually challenged gobshite should have been made to pay all the expenses herself and removed from Westminster unceremoniously by the ear.

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                          • #14
                            Re: This can’t be right.

                            So have I got the facts right here:

                            She wrote a letter to a public body, claiming incorrectly that this professor was a terrorist supporter, with no evidence to support it.
                            Then chose to make that letter public by tweeting it out.

                            Lost a defamation case which was then paid by her government department.

                            is that about right?

                            to be honest I'm in 2 minds about whether she should pay it herself or her work should pay it. I can see an argument that she thought she was acting in a professional capacity, and £15k is a piss in the ocean of the money the tories have wasted.

                            However she should definitely lose her job.

                            She's tried to throw a professor under the bus in order to gain some kind of culture war brownie points - potentially wrecking someone's career in the process - there used to be consequences for this kind of thing, not that long ago.

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                            • #15
                              Re: This can’t be right.

                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              Once again, no link I see, but, assuming what you say is right, the WAG are wrong in that case, what more do you want me to say?

                              That's more than you'll ever get from the slavish defenders of the Westminster Government mind.
                              The point is , it wouldn’t matter who was elected , they are both “cheeks of the same derrière” regardless

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