Another Brexit Bonus !!!

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

There is no such thing as society , only individuals

Herr Thatcher

Sludge it's not the 1980s.

I couldn't disagree with that statement of hers more btw. Am a very firm believer in the concept of society but you can't say that Conservatives don't believe in it. That's like saying Labour don't believe in the family. Just nonsense.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

Sludge it's not the 1980s.

I couldn't disagree with that statement of hers more btw. Am a very firm believer in the concept of society but you can't say that Conservatives don't believe in it. That's like saying Labour don't believe in the family. Just nonsense.

Yes I can

I try not to socialise with Tories but the ones I have to engage with are very selfish

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

There's no prospect of a UK US trade deal this year. Any negotiations will be after the next elections in both countries, and given the ack of willingness of both Trump and Biden to pursue a deal during the last 7 or 8 years, I can't see it being a priority for whomever wins in November.

It's also not some sort of charitable endeavour whoever we are negotiating with. USA has far less motivation to secure a deal with us than we do with them and therefore, it will lean heavily in their favour. Those clamouring for a trade deal with the USA, as some sort of 'see, Brexit works', might not like what we have to give away.

[Hilts]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

In Malaga last week. Being a non eu citizen meant I spent more due to fees for non eu citizens in places.

So next year.

https://www-birminghammail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/travel/uk-tourists-visiting-spain-greece-29044460.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17145777269233&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.birminghammail.co.uk%2Ftravel%2Fuk-tourists-visiting-spain-greece-29044460

Thanks Cameron u plank.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

In Malaga last week. Being a non eu citizen meant I spent more due to fees for non eu citizens in places.

So next year.

https://www-birminghammail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/travel/uk-tourists-visiting-spain-greece-29044460.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17145777269233&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.birminghammail.co.uk%2Ftravel%2Fuk-tourists-visiting-spain-greece-29044460

Thanks Cameron u plank.

It's good to see that the age group with the highest Brexit vote percentage gets away with not paying anything.

[jon1959]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

It's good to see that the age group with the highest Brexit vote percentage gets away with not paying anything.

Probably true (the 'over 65' band in 2016 voted 60% leave, 40% remain) but the older part of that cohort - the WW2 generation - voted by a majority to remain. Their support for the EU (the peace dividend) was second only to Millennials.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2019/03/21/not-all-the-over-65s-are-in-favour-of-brexit-britains-wartime-generation-are-almost-as-pro-eu-as-millennials/

[The Bloop]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

It's also not some sort of charitable endeavour whoever we are negotiating with. USA has far less motivation to secure a deal with us than we do with them and therefore, it will lean heavily in their favour. Those clamouring for a trade deal with the USA, as some sort of 'see, Brexit works', might not like what we have to give away.

Exactly. Prior to brexit the US (and others) would negotiate with 28 countries and a potential market of 500million people. Now its 2 separate negotiations and we're a small inconvenience in the big scheme of things.

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

In Malaga last week. Being a non eu citizen meant I spent more due to fees for non eu citizens in places.

So next year.

https://www-birminghammail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/travel/uk-tourists-visiting-spain-greece-29044460.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17145777269233&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.birminghammail.co.uk%2Ftravel%2Fuk-tourists-visiting-spain-greece-29044460

Thanks Cameron u plank.

I mean, no one wants to pay £6 for nothing. You can almost get an airport pint for that.

But it lasts upto four years, so that's £1.50 a year and for that it is checked against security logs to perhaps keep people safer?

I mean, it doesn't sound that awful in fairness

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

It's also not some sort of charitable endeavour whoever we are negotiating with. USA has far less motivation to secure a deal with us than we do with them and therefore, it will lean heavily in their favour. Those clamouring for a trade deal with the USA, as some sort of 'see, Brexit works', might not like what we have to give away.

But either you are saying that countries should naturally want to spend time to negotiate deals (to perhaps bespoke it to their own economic or social needs) in which case why wouldn't we want that ourselves..

..or you are saying that free trade deals are so universally positive that no one should ever want to make changes to it..in which case they wouldnt be complex to negotiate?

I'm sure the reality is somewhere in the middle.

[PontBlue]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

It's also not some sort of charitable endeavour whoever we are negotiating with. USA has far less motivation to secure a deal with us than we do with them and therefore, it will lean heavily in their favour. Those clamouring for a trade deal with the USA, as some sort of 'see, Brexit works', might not like what we have to give away.

Even deals with countries with much smaller economies have ended up shafting sectors of UK Business. Our Farmers are not happy with our market being flooded by lower quality Australian produce.