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  • Bring back National Service...

    ...from a man whose missus didn’t pay tax to the UK and also held a green card for the USA so he can scuttle off if needed.

    Is it me or does anyone else think Sunak has no intention of winning this election?

    Every 18-year-old would choose between joining the military or volunteering one weekend a month in the community.

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    Re: Bring back National Service...

    Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    ...from a man whose missus didn’t pay tax to the UK and also held a green card for the USA so he can scuttle off if needed.

    Is it me or does anyone else think Sunak has no intention of winning this election?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpddxy9r4mdo
    We are going to reduce proper troop numbers and send lots of youngsters to their certain deaths

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      Re: Bring back National Service...

      Pretty common across the beloved EU.

      What's wrong with service? Don't we all believe in society?

      Good idea I think.

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        Re: Bring back National Service...

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        Pretty common across the beloved EU.

        What's wrong with service? Don't we all believe in society?

        Good idea I think.
        I am not a fan of volunteering younger generations to do things that I wasn't expected to do.

        What happen when invariably some young people just say '**** off'? The spectator article touches upon this very point.

        There are also questions of practicality. Would the government arrest those that don’t comply? In the internal briefing Q and A, this is one of the questions – the suggestion is that there will be an incentives regime but they do not rule out the prospect

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          Is that what his plan was, to increase defence spending, all along? Not new types of weapon systems, but putting kids through National Service for a year?
          Bet he's disappointed that he's running again, as it would be much easier for him to not stand, and bugger off like many others.

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          • #6
            Re: Bring back National Service...

            Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
            Is that what his plan was, to increase defence spending, all along? Not new types of weapon systems, but putting kids through National Service for a year?
            No this is from another branch of the magic money tree.

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              Re: Bring back National Service...

              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
              Pretty common across the beloved EU.

              What's wrong with service? Don't we all believe in society?

              Good idea I think.
              I’d prefer that some of the reported £2.5 billion per year needed to send my kids on someone else’s jolly was used to perhaps keep youth clubs open in the UK so some kids have these opportunities within society. If they got £2.5 billion a year to spunk how about helping out with some apprenticeships or education etc.

              I wonder how many kids attending Eaton and Harrow get conscripted?

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                If you ask me this is the strongest evidence yet that rishi really, really doesn’t want to win this election. Strange

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                  Re: Bring back National Service...

                  Real desperation stuff. Will appeal to old right wingers and those who blame everything on the youth of today or immigrants.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Bring back National Service...

                    A nation's armed services are best served by enthusiastic volunteers who seek longer term training and expertise rather than drafting in disaffected individuals on a short-term basis and who may baulk at their own government's questionable military activities in some parts of the world.

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                      Re: Bring back National Service...

                      I wonder how long this cunning plan has been in the works?

                      How much time has gone into working it through, costing it, and testing the assumptions?

                      It sounds as if it is something that just popped into Sunak's head that morning.

                      Something that might get a few days positive headlines from the brain dead at the Express - then die as it deserves.

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                        Re: Bring back National Service...

                        It's bizarre. Pretty much ensures no votes from the younger electorate, even had they been inclined to vote Tory beforehand.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Bring back National Service...

                          Our country doesn’t need a large military. We need a skilled one. We’re an island surrounded by allies. In the extremely unlikely event we get invaded, having 1 trained pilot or navy gunner will be worth more than 1000 young lads with rifles lined up on the cliffs of Dover who would rather be anywhere else.

                          As for weekend volunteering, I used to do that as part of DofE through my local youth centre. That, and several others near me, closed down years ago due to lack of funds. Shame that.

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                            This should have been introduced years ago, starting with any politicians kids. However they are talking about cyber security and things like that rather picking up a gun

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                              Re: Bring back National Service...

                              Originally posted by pipster View Post
                              This should have been introduced years ago, starting with any politicians kids. However they are talking about cyber security and things like that rather picking up a gun
                              You just know the selection process for anything remotely useful or interesting will be completely corrupt. Rich kids/kids with connections will either get the cushy roles or pay the fine and poorer kids will be slave labour doing mundane shit that doesnt help them in the slightest.

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