Diane Abbott

[the other bob wilson]

“Served her time” for what she said in that letter to the Observer, yet still banned from standing as a candidate for the constituency she’s served for nearly forty years - shame onKeir Starmer’s party that was rolling out the welcome mat to a right wing Tory a few weeks ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-69072113

[pipster]

Re: Diane Abbott

“Served her time” for what she said in that letter to the Observer, yet still banned from standing as a candidate for the constituency she’s served for nearly forty years - shame onKeir Starmer’s party that was rolling out the welcome mat to a right wing Tory a few weeks ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-69072113

For once I agree with you, wasnt she the first black woman MP and the longest standing with a 33k majority. Pity she went down the anti semite route along with Corbyn, Long Bailey, Ken Livingston etc. She should have been allowed to stand as a Labour candidate, even if her ideas on what is racist are questionable. Just like when she said on the whole Mao did more good than harm - ignoring the fact he murdered between 45-60,000,000 of his own people.

There will be deal done and she will be Baroness Abbott of Tower Hamlets soon enough, in return for her not standing and definitely not appearing on TV or Radio.

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Re: Diane Abbott

“Served her time” for what she said in that letter to the Observer, yet still banned from standing as a candidate for the constituency she’s served for nearly forty years - shame onKeir Starmer’s party that was rolling out the welcome mat to a right wing Tory a few weeks ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-69072113

Abbott like Corbyn , livingstone , Benn etc more concerned about being on tv than the reality of 2024

The woman has faced dreadful racism in her time but her comments about other groups suffering from it were enough for her to be booted into political no man's land

But ......

Starmer has said at 2pm she's not been banned

[Dorcus]

Re: Diane Abbott

Abbott like Corbyn , livingstone , Benn etc more concerned about being on tv than the reality of 2024

The woman has faced dreadful racism in her time but her comments about other groups suffering from it were enough for her to be booted into political no man's land

But ......

Starmer has said at 2pm she's not been banned

Abbott, like Corbyn, Livingstone and Benn is a person of principles and nearer the true ethos of left leaning people.

Starmer, on the other hand, is a disingenuous, Machiavelli who will stop at nothing to secure his prime goal.

Unfortunately because of the dire state of
British politics his dishonest pragmatism is the chief reason we shall all avoid plunging farther down the Tory abyss. Even though things won't seem all that very different from what they are now

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Re: Diane Abbott

Abbott, like Corbyn, Livingstone and Benn is a person of principles and nearer the true ethos of left leaning people.

Starmer, on the other hand, is a disingenuous, Machiavelli who will stop at nothing to secure his prime goal.

Unfortunately because of the dire state of
British politics his dishonest pragmatism is the chief reason we shall all avoid plunging farther down the Tory abyss. Even though things won't seem all that very different from what they are now

In an ideal world the dreams of Abbott and the rest would be reality

But they are able to spout so much nonsense because they know a socialist government will never be elected

I don't rate starmer but he looks like he could win

Something those that don't vote Tory....most of us .....have not seen for 14 years

I genuinely think that Abbot, corbyn and Livingston don't care about getting rid of the Tories

As long as they can protest about stuff and fly the red flag

You can have principles as long as the M4 but left of centre governments need to be in power not drinking in the bar at party conferences

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Diane Abbott

This is becoming a cock up and labour were clearly hoping this would just drift into the background and she would quietly disappear. I don't really understand it myself, I don't think she is a divisive enough figure that letting her stand will have any impact on their overall electoral chances.

This is purely tactical and in the context of the recent defection it does just look ridiculous.

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Re: Diane Abbott

This is becoming a cock up and labour were clearly hoping this would just drift into the background and she would quietly disappear. I don't really understand it myself, I don't think she is a divisive enough figure that letting her stand will have any impact on their overall electoral chances.

This is purely tactical and in the context of the recent defection it does just look ridiculous.

Either she's banned from fighting her seat which is what she said today , starmer has said she isn't

She thinks she's very important which might be why she's been on social media ?

Surely if she's really a woman of the people then she should have just got on with winning the seat for Labour

She's got the same size ego as corbyn and the other dinosaurs

[Keyser Soze]

Re: Diane Abbott

Abbott, like Corbyn, Livingstone and Benn is a person of principles and nearer the true ethos of left leaning people.

Starmer, on the other hand, is a disingenuous, Machiavelli who will stop at nothing to secure his prime goal.

Unfortunately because of the dire state of
British politics his dishonest pragmatism is the chief reason we shall all avoid plunging farther down the Tory abyss. Even though things won't seem all that very different from what they are now

Diane Abbott claims she hates racism but holds racist views agains the Jewish community. Diane Abbott criticises “the elite, wealthy people and those with privilege”. but then sends her kids to private school, which is set up for those precisely with wealth and privilege. So two big ones there to prove that she is not principled at all.

A person of principle practices what they preach. That is what being “principled” means. There are no alternative means. So in fact, she is the complete opposite - a big time, Grade A hypocrite.

So add hypocritical and racist to the other facts that she cannot do basic arithmetic, is thick, and is often on the wrong side of judgement on many topics, and you have the perfect set of reasons to kick the idiot out.

The additional argument that “time spent” is a qualifier is ridiculous and emblematic of a cancerous public sector mentality that the longer you hang around like a bad smelling turd the more qualified you are to remain. It is nonsense. The qualifier should be track record and your ability to deliver. In other words, “merit” (proven ability) a word that seemingly frightens the average idiotic baboon that hangs on to long term employment when they are way past sell-by date, or perhaps were always low grade in the first place.

The above is a much deserved hatchet job on this woman. Perhaps Elphicke was a poor hire, but is irrelevant to the matter in hand and is a straw man argument by the Lunatic Left. Thank god Labour has decapitated her. Perhaps we can kick other baboons out such as Lammy, Ashworth and Rayner, and leave Starmer’s shadow cabinet with serious people like Streeting, Reeves, Reynolds and maybe a few more decents.

Hallelujah, brother this is a massive cause for a celebration. I’ll have a single malt to toast this one this evening.

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Diane Abbott

Abbott like Corbyn , livingstone , Benn etc more concerned about being on tv than the reality of 2024

The woman has faced dreadful racism in her time but her comments about other groups suffering from it were enough for her to be booted into political no man's land

But ......

Starmer has said at 2pm she's not been banned

But qualified it by saying that no final decision has yet been made! So not banned at the moment then. Straight from the school of political answer-avoidance faculty.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Diane Abbott

Hallelujah, brother this is a massive cause for a celebration. I’ll have a single malt to toast this one this evening.

How dare you enjoy such luxury while criticising someone with wealth and privilege for sending their kids to private school, go buy some special brew like the rest of us non-hypocrites.

I've never quite got this, surely someone arguing for change from within a system actually adds depth to a position as you can demonstrate that it isn't born from jealousy but from experience. It's human instinct to do the best possible for your children and opportunities are more prevalent for those with a private education.

Anyway, must dash, jeeves is bringing the car round any minute.

[JamesWales]

Re: Diane Abbott

Pretty poorly handled, although I do think it does demonstrate that she is a bit of a loose cannon really, not clearly working out what was happening before going to the press. I do respect Diane Abbott. A kind of Anne Widdecombe of Labour, but above and beyond that someone who did overcome a lot of difficulties and was a trailblazer etc.

But yeah, the comms all seem off. I guess this is the kind of thing Sunak hoped for by taking people by surprise with the election?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Diane Abbott

None of this adds up..

[Dave Blue]

Re: Diane Abbott

She tends to be a liability and looks like she still is. A bit like Rees Mogg and the like, best not putting anywhere near a tv camera if you are hoping to get elected into power.

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Re: Diane Abbott

The left of the labour party have never learned the lessons of the past

They are told time and time again to shout and stamp your feet AFTER labour have been elected

Abbot , Corbyn and their disciples can't help themselves and it wouldn't surprise me if the idiots turn up on question time trotting out the far left nonsense

I would gag the lot of them

It's 2024 , If in the long term those of us that don't vote Tory want them kept out of power the traditional old school tory v labour battle has got to end and the middle ground of labour , liberal and the smaller parties have got to get closer together

The divisions of the non tory parties let's those very tories we don't like in atthe back door

The labour party wasn't set up as far as I am aware to smash capitalism , it was there for better working conditions , a health service etc

The far left are a pain in the arse

I don't rate starmer but a reforming more moderate opposition party or a merger or coalition of the moderates is looking like it could win

If abbot, corbyn , heffer and the rest were still about its doing the devil's work

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Re: Diane Abbott

She tends to be a liability and looks like she still is. A bit like Rees Mogg and the like, best not putting anywhere near a tv camera if you are hoping to get elected into power.

Lock her in the cupboard for a month