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  • #16
    Re: F*ck 'em all

    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    That doesn't mean anything

    When it comes to the big one Plaid try to get their message over but it's one of independence ultimately

    And the majority of the Welsh population don't want this

    Plaids best hope is to push for a strong influence on a Labour government in the hot seat at Westminster
    Labour won 41% of the vote in Wales at the 2019 general election. Opinion polls for the 2024 general election show that support for Labour has declined in Wales - which isn't surprising given Drakeford's decline and VG's disastrous reign.

    Since 2021 opinion polling for the next Senedd elections has consistently shown support for Labour in the low 30s% for the regional seats. All seats will be 'regional' in 2026 and after 2 years of Starmer and 2 years of VG's replacement - possibly Lynne Neagle - the Welsh electorate are very unlikely to be more enthusiastic about Labour than they are now.

    We face the prospect of a Senedd with no majority (which has usually been the case since 1999) but with a diminished Labour Party cowed by High Commissioner Jo Stevens and a Plaid Cymru utterly hostile to Starmerism.

    Plaid are likely to have 25-30 seats (out of 96) and could possibly form a minority government with Greens and LibDems.

    Roll on 2026! Labour will have been outed as the two-faced neoliberal sham that they actually are and hopefully Wales will boot them out.

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    • #17
      Re: F*ck 'em all

      Originally posted by severncity View Post
      Labour won 41% of the vote in Wales at the 2019 general election. Opinion polls for the 2024 general election show that support for Labour has declined in Wales - which isn't surprising given Drakeford's decline and VG's disastrous reign.

      Since 2021 opinion polling for the next Senedd elections has consistently shown support for Labour in the low 30s% for the regional seats. All seats will be 'regional' in 2026 and after 2 years of Starmer and 2 years of VG's replacement - possibly Lynne Neagle - the Welsh electorate are very unlikely to be more enthusiastic about Labour than they are now.

      We face the prospect of a Senedd with no majority (which has usually been the case since 1999) but with a diminished Labour Party cowed by High Commissioner Jo Stevens and a Plaid Cymru utterly hostile to Starmerism.

      Plaid are likely to have 25-30 seats (out of 96) and could possibly form a minority government with Greens and LibDems.

      Roll on 2026! Labour will have been outed as the two-faced neoliberal sham that they actually are and hopefully Wales will boot them out.
      Keep holding onto that hope

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      • #18
        Re: F*ck 'em all

        Originally posted by severncity View Post
        Labour will have been outed as the two-faced neoliberal sham that they actually are and hopefully Wales will boot them out.
        👏👏👏

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        • #19
          Re: F*ck 'em all

          Originally posted by Robin Friday's Ghost View Post
          👏👏👏
          I think your bitterness will not be satisfied

          Latest polls show 43 percent labour support in Wales

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          • #20
            Re: F*ck 'em all

            Originally posted by severncity View Post
            Labour won 41% of the vote in Wales at the 2019 general election. Opinion polls for the 2024 general election show that support for Labour has declined in Wales - which isn't surprising given Drakeford's decline and VG's disastrous reign.

            Since 2021 opinion polling for the next Senedd elections has consistently shown support for Labour in the low 30s% for the regional seats. All seats will be 'regional' in 2026 and after 2 years of Starmer and 2 years of VG's replacement - possibly Lynne Neagle - the Welsh electorate are very unlikely to be more enthusiastic about Labour than they are now.

            We face the prospect of a Senedd with no majority (which has usually been the case since 1999) but with a diminished Labour Party cowed by High Commissioner Jo Stevens and a Plaid Cymru utterly hostile to Starmerism.

            Plaid are likely to have 25-30 seats (out of 96) and could possibly form a minority government with Greens and LibDems.

            Roll on 2026! Labour will have been outed as the two-faced neoliberal sham that they actually are and hopefully Wales will boot them out.
            43 percent labour support in wales latest according to yougov

            You may think Wales is stupid for blindly following labour but if the alternative is Plaid then I am afraid its not wanted

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            • #21
              Re: F*ck 'em all

              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
              I think your bitterness will not be satisfied

              Latest polls show 43 percent labour support in Wales
              Never been one to follow the crowd 👍

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              • #22
                Re: F*ck 'em all

                Originally posted by Robin Friday's Ghost View Post
                Never been one to follow the crowd 👍
                There's a positive in there for you somewhere 😂

                👍

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                • #23
                  Re: F*ck 'em all

                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  43 percent labour support in wales latest according to yougov

                  You may think Wales is stupid for blindly following labour but if the alternative is Plaid then I am afraid its not wanted
                  Do you understand that that 43% support for Labour is for the Westminster election?

                  I'm talking about opinion polling for the 2026 Senedd elections. I got this graph from the wiki page on those elections.List_opinion_polling_for_the_next_Senedd_election.svg.jpg

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                  • #24
                    Re: F*ck 'em all

                    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                    Well the liberals are the only ones pushing the boat out with spending but they are not going to get in

                    Labour are planning to spend more than the Tories

                    That will do for most people
                    So how will it all affect you? Your work and kids?

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                    • #25
                      Re: F*ck 'em all

                      Originally posted by goats View Post
                      So how will it all affect you? Your work and kids?
                      I am voting for the country , not me

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                      • #26
                        Re: F*ck 'em all

                        Originally posted by severncity View Post
                        You're missing out on Kiera Marshall - who has made a huge impression on the voters of Cardiff West

                        https://x.com/Kiera_Plaid/status/180...2GpHG9emQ&s=19
                        I’m Grangetown mate. The fly-tipping hotspot in Cardiff! Stephen Doughty country. He’ll get you anything you want for a couple of Diazepam.

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                        • #27
                          Re: F*ck 'em all

                          Originally posted by severncity View Post
                          Do you understand that that 43% support for Labour is for the Westminster election?

                          I'm talking about opinion polling for the 2026 Senedd elections. I got this graph from the wiki page on those elections.[ATTACH=CONFIG]6194[/ATTACH]

                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Senedd_election
                          VG will be gone by then

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                          • #28
                            Re: F*ck 'em all

                            Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                            If 5 more years of the Tories with who knows as PM and the likes of Patel , Braverman in Govt is ok for you as you don't think an alternative will make the slightest bit of difference then don't use your vote.

                            For me stopping the absurd ship em to Rwanda playing up to the far right is enough.
                            I can no longer with good conscience pretend my vote matters when it’s the King who gives permission to form a government and I’m his subject. God bless him guvner.

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                            • #29
                              Re: F*ck 'em all

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              I am voting for the country , not me
                              Which country? Surely you can’t be happy with the new Tories here in Wales? Go liberal? Think about your children

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                              • #30
                                Re: F*ck 'em all

                                Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                                I’m Grangetown mate. The fly-tipping hotspot in Cardiff! Stephen Doughty country. He’ll get you anything you want for a couple of Diazepam.
                                Such a success the new recycling scheme in the city, we go through the labourish activity of separating everything, only for the numpties to just chuck everything in the back of their wagons mixing it up again…..winner.

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