This excellent stream from last night has the Greens winning four seats and I notice they’re up to nine points in a poll for the Observer this morning.
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When Europen Communism was finally smashed in 1989 with the fall of the Berlin wall, and even hard Socialism was thankfully given its “final solution” in the 1990s into the 2000s, it is no co-incidence that this odd cabal began to be formed.
Initially it comprised of overzealous eco-warriors. But any groups desperate for membership naturally lowers its standard for membership entry. For UKIP it accepted the Bongo Bongo elderly racist guy. The error-strewn Green Party army now seems to be full of angry menapousal vegan wives, Greenpeace protestors, tree huggers, commies, frustated young girls far too ugly to get any bedroom action, economic ignoramuses, druggies, hippies, society’s cast-offs, those with no skills to contribute to society, dangerous idealists such as gender studies degree “alumni” and Feminist PhD’s, anti-semite racists and muslim fundamentalists. I dread to think what a summer garden gathering champagne and nibbles would be like with this hotch potch of Masters of Misery. What a barrel of laughs they must be.
The nadir of this barmy party was encapsulated just a few months back in the local election when muslim fundamentalist Moeheen Ali angrily shouted “Allah Akbar” when he won the Leeds council election for The Greens, and a load of crusties cheering him on as somehow this man could offer a vision of the future. Not the image of a sensible muslim as most muslims of Leeds surelt are. Wise choice, Leeds. All he was seemingly missing in his photo-op celebrations was a rifle and perhaps a live celebratory media conference with the Afghani Taliban to congratulate him.
If the UKIP/BNP are hate-filled disenfranchised right wing extremists, then it is obvious to any casual observer that The Greens are its equivalent evil twin on the Left. They represent and capture anger. But they do not have the brains, vision, people, leadership nor solutions for the future.
When things are bad these parties represent a “Barmy-O-Meter” of the Ventier Class, but nothing to take too seriously. They are bonkers. Just humour them a little. They’ll go away or go bust in due course.
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Absolutely not. I have several Green friends, including one who was elected as a councillor. Nice person, but assumed money grew on trees so they really aren't strong enough on economic matters. They have shifted leftwards too in the UK, which I think is an error as across Europe they tend to be a little more centrist and are often in government coalitions.Originally posted by the other bob wilson View PostThis excellent stream from last night has the Greens winning four seats and I notice they’re up to nine points in a poll for the Observer this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/live/9pWPHxM...NOnTsj_IsLgq5_
For me their importance is more as a kind of pressure group on all parties than being s viable party of government themselves
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I have thought about giving them my vote, but Labour still has it for this election.
I did vote Green in the last local elections (and the Mayor & Police/Crime Commissioner) - and they won, unseating the Lib Dems for the first time in decades.
The Greens are in coalition with Labour on Sheffield Council - and (sadly for me) seem to be the more principled, energetic and effective partner.
They have hoovered up a lot of traditional Labour support in my part of the world - and are definitely seen as the radical alternative to the now firmly right-wing Starmer Labour Party. They get their funding from members - not from rich donors and lobbyists.
There is an element of wish list to their manifesto - but overall it is well thought out and deals with the real challenges facing the UK.
If or when Starmer finally breaks Labour the Greens will get my votes every time.
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Labour , Liberal , Green , anything but the tories
Very important that the green party are about
But in terms of their manifesto it's not viable
Liberal plans for the care sector, which is absolutely shot to bits are better than labour and tories but this country won't pay for better health and social care
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I’ve just switched to a postal vote and it’s not arrived yet. I had one for a short while when I lived in Cardiff as well and, from memory,I would have received and sent it off by now.Originally posted by Hilts View PostSadly for me this election is all about removing this disaster of a Govt. Therefore no.
Saying that I will be abroad and my postal votes haven't come through so I may not be voting for anyone.
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Good lad, voting Labour is the only way for us to get digital surveillance and control, and I would love to experience it in real-life before I die.Originally posted by jon1959 View PostI have thought about giving them my vote, but Labour still has it for this election.
I did vote Green in the last local elections (and the Mayor & Police/Crime Commissioner) - and they won, unseating the Lib Dems for the first time in decades.
The Greens are in coalition with Labour on Sheffield Council - and (sadly for me) seem to be the more principled, energetic and effective partner.
They have hoovered up a lot of traditional Labour support in my part of the world - and are definitely seen as the radical alternative to the now firmly right-wing Starmer Labour Party. They get their funding from members - not from rich donors and lobbyists.
There is an element of wish list to their manifesto - but overall it is well thought out and deals with the real challenges facing the UK.
If or when Starmer finally breaks Labour the Greens will get my votes every time.
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Good post Jon. The Greens made a pact with Plaid in Cardiff which was the real reason I stopped being active. Your posts make my flippancy regarding politics and this election look even more flippant! The truth is I’m worn down by it all and have no political home. Can’t bring myself to drape myself in a Union Flag. My local MP squeezed diazepam out of a vulnerable constituent. That’s how bad it is!Originally posted by jon1959 View PostI have thought about giving them my vote, but Labour still has it for this election.
I did vote Green in the last local elections (and the Mayor & Police/Crime Commissioner) - and they won, unseating the Lib Dems for the first time in decades.
The Greens are in coalition with Labour on Sheffield Council - and (sadly for me) seem to be the more principled, energetic and effective partner.
They have hoovered up a lot of traditional Labour support in my part of the world - and are definitely seen as the radical alternative to the now firmly right-wing Starmer Labour Party. They get their funding from members - not from rich donors and lobbyists.
There is an element of wish list to their manifesto - but overall it is well thought out and deals with the real challenges facing the UK.
If or when Starmer finally breaks Labour the Greens will get my votes every time.
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You don't think we have digital surveillance and control now? I thought you were on the ball with all this stuff?Originally posted by Wales-Bales View PostGood lad, voting Labour is the only way for us to get digital surveillance and control, and I would love to experience it in real-life before I die.
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I'll chase it up tomorrow.Originally posted by the other bob wilson View PostI’ve just switched to a postal vote and it’s not arrived yet. I had one for a short while when I lived in Cardiff as well and, from memory,I would have received and sent it off by now.
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On a personal level I have done everything I can possibly do to reduce our energy consumption. We have massively improved the level of insulation in our house, draught-proofed as much as possible, installed solar PV and solar thermal, use only LED lighting, reduced the usage of the cooker by using an air frier and minimise use of "stand by" on electrical appliances.
I would like to vote "Green" but currently it would be a wasted vote IMO.
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