Kicking Arse

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Who thinks people having good working conditions or a fair pensions is disgraceful?

If it's about 2% of the population I would be amazed.

Most Tories

[Eric Cartman]

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She's confused because it's a series of unrelated and often contradictory statements that raise more questions than they solve.

For example, housing isn't unaffordable because wages have dropped off they are unaffordable because their value has skyrocketed. To raise wages to the level so that wages v house prices was at the pre 2000s norm would have the more staggering impact on the economy imaginable (and not solve the problem in hand, as house prices would rise further).

Np one's mentioned Brexit, but what I do generally appreciate on that topic is that people who propose being in the EU as a solution cast their eye on that place and then realise that it likely isn't.

It's all very well to think the grass is greener when you can't see over the fence but when a quick Google search gives you the RAL colour of all the grass in every field in the world it's a bit annoying that it's never checked.

The magic bullet is building enough houses that house prices do not rise on average, but people who own houses are aghast at that because the dream they have been sold of retiring on the profit generated by their house is shattered.

It's not strictly true to say wages haven't contributed though, it's a combination of both incomings and outgoings. When compared with 2002 if the pay for my role had stayed neutral in real terms I would be earning 40% more than I am today, that would make a big difference. I am no outlier, that is basically every public sector role and although I don't have the numbers probably most people working in normal private sector roles too.

[Eric Cartman]

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Who thinks people having good working conditions or a fair pensions is disgraceful?

If it's about 2% of the population I would be amazed.

Peoples definition of fair/good is anchored in the past. Lots of people who thought 50k was a great salary in the 90s, still think it's a great salary now.

Look at the reaction every time a normal working person strikes for better pay or conditions.

There is this lingering popular idea that if you don't like your lot, find another job, completely forgetting the obviously systemic problem that the job still exists/needs to be done and whoever is in it will face the same problems.

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Who thinks people having good working conditions or a fair pensions is disgraceful?

If it's about 2% of the population I would be amazed.

Well every Tom, Dick and Harry slagged off the train drivers only recently

Everyone could do that job , apparently and they were holding the country to ransom