Tory Britain 2024.

[TWGL1]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

That's not correct I'm afraid.

The UK has an employment rate of 74.3% and an unemployment rate of 4.4%. So the rate of economically active is 78.7%. In Germany the same rate for employed and unemployed is 83.1% (77.1% employment rate). The employment rate is critical to the health of a nation's economy.

It is correct , under the old system significant numbers of those people on Legacy Benefits and UC with disability elements would be classed as unemployed. (Economically Inactive in today’s money)

[az city]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

It is correct , under the old system significant numbers of those people on Legacy Benefits and UC with disability elements would be classed as unemployed. (Economically Inactive in today’s money)

We can keep arguing if you like but you're wrong. Employment rates are reflective of the relevant working age populations in a country. That is, if you aren't employed you are classed as unemployed or not in the labour force. It's not a question of benefits or the pain of unemployment, it's simply a statement of the % of a population that is employed. You must be able to see that matters and it's an important indicator?

Someone who is "economically inactive" isn't in the labour force, whether employed or unemployed.

[TWGL1]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

We can keep arguing if you like but you're wrong. Employment rates are reflective of the relevant working age populations in a country. That is, if you aren't employed you are classed as unemployed or not in the labour force. It's not a question of benefits or the pain of unemployment, it's simply a statement of the % of a population that is employed. You must be able to see that matters and it's an important indicator?

Someone who is "economically inactive" isn't in the labour force, whether employed or unemployed.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/8/unemployment/the-true-level-of-unemployment-in-uk/

The OECD produced a report in 2019 that if the economically inactive are included – the ‘true level of unemployment rate would rise from 4.6% to 13.2% of the working-age population, not in education.

The link gives a simple definition for you and you can keep arguing about it but you’re incorrect.

[az city]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/8...loyment-in-uk/

The OECD produced a report in 2019 that if the economically inactive are included – the ‘true level of unemployment rate would rise from 4.6% to 13.2% of the working-age population, not in education.

The link gives a simple definition for you and you can keep arguing about it but you’re incorrect.

Sorry, my friend, you are now changing the goal posts. By the standard definition (which all countries use), the "economically inactive" are not in the labour force. End of. Now, different states have different ways of determining if members of their population are in the labour force (and they are not averse to playing games with definitions). That makes comparing the statistics across countries for unemployment problematic.

The OECD definition of employment, unemployment, economic inactivity etc are identical to those I attempted to explain above.

I think I've spent all the time I can on this. So, if you keep insisting, I shall let you be correct.

The piece you've picked is a not very good attempt to re-define unemployment to make inter-country statistics comparable.

[TWGL1]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Sorry, my friend, you are now changing the goal posts. By the standard definition (which all countries use), the "economically inactive" are not in the labour force. End of. Now, different states have different ways of determining if members of their population are in the labour force (and they are not averse to playing games with definitions). That makes comparing the statistics across countries for unemployment problematic.

The OECD definition of employment, unemployment, economic inactivity etc are identical to those I attempted to explain above.

I think I've spent all the time I can on this. So, if you keep insisting, I shall let you be correct.

The piece you've picked is a not very good attempt to re-define unemployment to make inter-country statistics comparable.

It was I was trying to explain in the first instance and the article was a better way to explain that the employment rate is higher than government statistics let you believe. The article is an excellent source of information and backs up what I was trying to point out.

The DWP have to classify certain customers as “not unemployed “ when under the old system they will probably have additional subsidies for certain legacy benefit customers and low income workers on zero contacts.

The Tory government are fudging the figures on the unemployment rate.

[pipster]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Devastating news for JamesWales and his tory chums on here

Time for a regroup a rethink and the task of dealing with the brain dead of reform

Not so sure they are brain dead , I dont think 14% of the UK vote means they are all brain dead. Same goes for similar votes in France, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Italy - or are you (a highly intelligent ex painter and decorator from Cowbridge) going to say they are all brain dead as well?.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Not so sure they are brain dead , I dont think 14% of the UK vote means they are all brain dead. Same goes for similar votes in France, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Italy - or are you (a highly intelligent ex painter and decorator from Cowbridge) going to say they are all brain dead as well?.

Yep brain dead and xenophobic

Farage was a fan of the BNP before he apparently destroyed it

Reform are populist nutters attracting nutters

I definitely think around 15 percent of those that voted are thick

Definitely

You are just upset that you lost the election

Never mind

[Enoch Mort]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Well, in Tory Britain Flash went missing and has not been found. Perhaps the new Labour Government can make it a priority to locate him !

[JamesWales]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Yep brain dead and xenophobic

Farage was a fan of the BNP before he apparently destroyed it

Reform are populist nutters attracting nutters

I definitely think around 15 percent of those that voted are thick

Definitely

You are just upset that you lost the election

Never mind

Christ sake, I was hoping Labour winning would help you reign in your ridiculous hyperbolic insults.

Sadly not.

[goats]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Christ sake, I was hoping Labour winning would help you reign in your ridiculous hyperbolic insults.

Sadly not.

Maybe he’s starting to realise they will be worse than Tories, they might even dare to try and get him off the benefit cheque and back to work…

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Christ sake, I was hoping Labour winning would help you reign in your ridiculous hyperbolic insults.

Sadly not.

You carry on defending farage and his goons , who are , according to you , not racist

[JamesWales]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Maybe he’s starting to realise they will be worse than Tories, they might even dare to try and get him off the benefit cheque and back to work…

Lord alone knows what he's thinking

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Maybe he’s starting to realise they will be worse than Tories, they might even dare to try and get him off the benefit cheque and back to work…

I certainly hope they withdraw life support to you , you really are an arsehole these days

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

Lord alone knows what he's thinking

I am thinking you continually defend farage

That's what I am thinking

And despite you thinking you are clever the people who hang on your coat tails on here are really not very bright

[JamesWales]

Re: Tory Britain 2024.

I am thinking you continually defend farage

That's what I am thinking

And despite you thinking you are clever the people who hang on your coat tails on here are really not very bright

Gutted not to get the endorsement of Mr nice guy who labels those with different political opinions vermin, who said Nadine Dorries should be shot and who was pretty racist about Patel and Braverman only the other week!