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[TWGL1]

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Two more great examples thanks.

As I've said as long as those who need it get it I don't have an issue. If those who need it don't get it that is a problem. I suspect many on here don't need it but resent losing it.

I’d prefer if they applied the “need it , get it” to the free prescription policy in wales and not this mindset for pensioners. Pensioners who have spent all of their working lives paying into the tax system

[Dorcus]

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I’d prefer if they applied the “need it , get it” to the free prescription policy in wales and not this mindset for pensioners. Pensioners who have spent all of their working lives paying into the tax system

Totally agree on "need it, get it) but I'm not sure why or wherefore it relates to people paying into the tax system.

[TWGL1]

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Totally agree on "need it, get it) but I'm not sure why or wherefore it relates to people paying into the tax system.

Pensioners such as my father in law who have worked all their lives , have decent pensions and whose capital has been eroded by paying care home fees , don’t deserve to be sidelined

[chrisp_1927]

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I’d prefer if they applied the “need it , get it” to the free prescription policy in wales and not this mindset for pensioners. Pensioners who have spent all of their working lives paying into the tax system

I'm always slightly surprised at the way that pensioners all become hard workers the day they retire. Yes most pensioners will have worked/worked hard. But some of them won't have, some of them will have spent their whole adult life on the dole. Not a big thing but it just always makes me chuckle how the whole cohort becomes 'strivers' as soon as they've retired.

[Dorcus]

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Pensioners such as my father in law who have worked all their lives , have decent pensions and whose capital has been eroded by paying care home fees , don’t deserve to be sidelined

The Winter Heating Allowance is not some kind of reward for service you know! It's a taxpayer's funded hardship payment for those most in need. You've just admitted your in law is comfortably off with. a decent pension and indeed capital. Why can't he stand on his own feet if he's got capital to access?

Many many thousands are not so fortunate and are desperate for a little extra to keep themselves warm. Whether they've worked or not is irrelevant: these people need help and, unlike the Tories, who used the fund to give out bungs to their supporters, Labour is administering the allowance sensibly.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Pensioners such as my father in law who have worked all their lives , have decent pensions and whose capital has been eroded by paying care home fees , don’t deserve to be sidelined

When the Tories came in , 14 plus years ago , they said they were going to FIX the care crisis ....which they made far worse in the first place by privatising the home care industry !

[Elwood Blues]

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The Winter Heating Allowance is not some kind of reward for service you know! It's a taxpayer's funded hardship payment for those most in need. You've just admitted your in law is comfortably off with. a decent pension and indeed capital. Why can't he stand on his own feet if he's got capital to access?

Many many thousands are not so fortunate and are desperate for a little extra to keep themselves warm. Whether they've worked or not is irrelevant: these people need help and, unlike the Tories, who used the fund to give out bungs to their supporters, Labour is administering the allowance sensibly.

Who brought the allowance in in the first place?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I'm always slightly surprised at the way that pensioners all become hard workers the day they retire. Yes most pensioners will have worked/worked hard. But some of them won't have, some of them will have spent their whole adult life on the dole. Not a big thing but it just always makes me chuckle how the whole cohort becomes 'strivers' as soon as they've retired.

They are not real pensioners they are just lazy bums over retirement age.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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They won't tax working people, and now they are on about increasing the tax on petrol, so it is another blatant lie!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Who brought the allowance in in the first place?

Who brought in housing benefit but then slashed it ?

[Dorcus]

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Who brought the allowance in in the first place?

The point was not about a race it was about administration! USED rather than INTRODUCED.

[TWGL1]

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Who brought in housing benefit but then slashed it ?

Who was in power in 1989 ?

[Elwood Blues]

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The point was not about a race it was about administration! USED rather than INTRODUCED.

You and Sludge always avoid the question with your deflection tactics

[Elwood Blues]

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The point was not about a race it was about administration! USED rather than INTRODUCED.

I'm sorry. As you know I lack the intelligence to understand these matters oh wise one.

How have the Consrvatives "used" the winter fuel allowance any differently than Labour?

[Dorcus]

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I'm sorry. As you know I lack the intelligence to understand these matters oh wise one.

How have the Consrvatives "used" the winter fuel allowance any differently than Labour?

Noted!

Can't you see how Labour are using the fuel allowance differently now? I thought that was the crux of the Tory supporters' bellyaching?