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[cyril evans awaydays]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4861523-georgia-high-school-shooting/

[jon1959]

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Surprised the sanctimonious BS response didn’t include arming more janitors, catering staff and children to deter the use of guns in schools. The only sane answer (after lots of praying) I assume!

[JamesWales]

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Surprised the sanctimonious BS response didn’t include arming more janitors, catering staff and children to deter the use of guns in schools. The only sane answer (after lots of praying) I assume!

Fairly standard response in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy though isn't it? Think of the victims etc?

More widely, I remember when these incidents were the biggest news of the month. Columbine was huge news. Occured of a larger scale but demonstrates that these things weren't so common twenty or so years ago.

[lardy]

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Fairly standard response in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy though isn't it? Think of the victims etc?

More widely, I remember when these incidents were the biggest news of the month. Columbine was huge news. Occured of a larger scale but demonstrates that these things weren't so common twenty or so years ago.

It's the standard republican response, but that's the shortened version.

It's normally when they're asked about stronger regulation or restriction of guns after a school shooting. The line is "thoughts and prayers to the victims, this is not the time to talk about regulation".

Yes, these are more common now, hence why there are much stronger calls for regulation, and "thoughts and prayers" is an increasingly pathetic reply.

[JamesWales]

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Sure there is a wider debate to be had, and that goes much wider than simply being about gun control, but this doesn't strike me as a particularly inappropriate statement in the immediate aftermath of a mass shooting. Some people may want it politicized but I'm not sure that's appropriate literally hours after the death when no one knows the full story

"Leigh Ann and I are praying for the victims, their families, and all students at Apalachee High School in Barrow County,” he wrote on X. “We extend our gratitude to law enforcement for their swift action to secure the school and get the shooter in custody. I have spoken with Sheriff Smith and told him my team and I are available to assist in any way necessary. We will continue to monitor and provide updates as prudent.”

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I am surprised the NRA havnt revived Charlton Heston to give a speech

Like they did at the time of columbine

Now that was inappropriate

[JamesWales]

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I am surprised the NRA havnt revived Charlton Heston to give a speech

Like they did at the time of columbine

Now that was inappropriate

True, although that was Michael Moore who did that really - his "cold dead hands" speech was more than a year after Columbine.

The kid who killed people here used an assault rifle again. How can anyone justify their legality, even within the wider right to bear arms (which I can understand even if I don't agree with it)

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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True, although that was Michael Moore who did that really - his "cold dead hands" speech was more than a year after Columbine.

The kid who killed people here used an assault rifle again. How can anyone justify their legality, even within the wider right to bear arms (which I can understand even if I don't agree with it)

https://youtu.be/ORYVCML8xeE?si=JrusrxeMWp11CM1g

An absolute selfish paranoid redneck nutter preaching to his mates

There are millions of guns in circulation in America because of this lot

[lardy]

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True, although that was Michael Moore who did that really - his "cold dead hands" speech was more than a year after Columbine.

The kid who killed people here used an assault rifle again. How can anyone justify their legality, even within the wider right to bear arms (which I can understand even if I don't agree with it)

It's not appropriate for you to politicize this literally hours after the death when no one knows the true story.

[lardy]

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Sure there is a wider debate to be had, and that goes much wider than simply being about gun control, but this doesn't strike me as a particularly inappropriate statement in the immediate aftermath of a mass shooting. Some people may want it politicized but I'm not sure that's appropriate literally hours after the death when no one knows the full story

"Leigh Ann and I are praying for the victims, their families, and all students at Apalachee High School in Barrow County,” he wrote on X. “We extend our gratitude to law enforcement for their swift action to secure the school and get the shooter in custody. I have spoken with Sheriff Smith and told him my team and I are available to assist in any way necessary. We will continue to monitor and provide updates as prudent.”

You're quoting a politician, the governor is also in that article saying “I urge all Georgians to join my family in praying for the safety of those in our classrooms, both in Barrow County and across the state,”

These are the lawmakers, that's why it's nonsense that they offer 'thoughts and prayers' but do nothing about it because they like the NRA money coming their way. I'll let you into a secret here, they talk about thoughts and prayers because they know that in two days time they won't be asked about it any more and they won't have to actually do anything about it and it is absolutely guaranteed that children will continue to be gunned down in school.


Here's another one:

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-texas-school-shooting-comments

I could spend all day posting up republicans saying this over the years after the hundreds of school shootings that they've had.

[lardy]

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Brian Kemp:
Now is not the time to talk about safety and policy, thoughts and prayers to victims, law enforcement and teachers

Brian Kemp at other times:
Signs into law the right to carry a handgun in public without a permit

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/us/georgia-permitless-gun-carry-law-signed/index.html

[JamesWales]

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It's not appropriate for you to politicize this literally hours after the death when no one knows the true story.

I'm not, Im replying to Sludge, about an event that happened 25 years ago, as you well know

[TWGL1]

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Brian Kemp:
Now is not the time to talk about safety and policy, thoughts and prayers to victims, law enforcement and teachers

Brian Kemp at other times:
Signs into law the right to carry a handgun in public without a permit

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/us/ge...ned/index.html

Incidents like these get the public onside in handing over their weapons, and that’s also what the government want, so however tragic, it’s a win -win

[JamesWales]

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You're quoting a politician, the governor is also in that article saying “I urge all Georgians to join my family in praying for the safety of those in our classrooms, both in Barrow County and across the state,”

These are the lawmakers, that's why it's nonsense that they offer 'thoughts and prayers' but do nothing about it because they like the NRA money coming their way. I'll let you into a secret here, they talk about thoughts and prayers because they know that in two days time they won't be asked about it any more and they won't have to actually do anything about it and it is absolutely guaranteed that children will continue to be gunned down in school.


Here's another one:

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-texas-school-shooting-comments

I could spend all day posting up republicans saying this over the years after the hundreds of school shootings that they've had.

I would be in agreement with you on the banning of assault weapons, but lawmakers are also community representatives and offering condolences in the light of a tragic event that has happened literally hours earlier is also pretty standard behaviour.

[Gofer Blue]

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Surprised the sanctimonious BS response didn’t include arming more janitors, catering staff and children to deter the use of guns in schools. The only sane answer (after lots of praying) I assume!

In the Bible (2 Timothy 3 v5) the apostle Paul describes the nature of people in the last days. In his description, he warns of people who are characterized as “having a form of godliness" *. Paul then issues this command: “Have nothing to do with such people.”

Those who have a form of godliness are those who make an outward display of religion. They present themselves as godly, but it is all for show. There is no power behind their religion, as evidenced in the fact that their lives are unchanged. They speak of God and live in sin, and they are fine with that arrangement. As commentator Charles Ellicott wrote, “These, by claiming the title of Christians, wearing before men the uniform of Christ, but by their lives dishonouring His name, do the gravest injury to the holy Christian cause”.

* I would suggest that the gun promoting "religious" folk fall into that category. There will be some people for whom the "thoughts and prayers" response is genuine and so we need to be careful not to group everyone under the same redneck/gun toting category.