Allison Pearson (journalist)

[Wales-Bales]

Allison Pearson’s ‘racist’ tweet is at centre of Telegraph’s row with police

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/nov/15/allison-pearson-jew-haters-tweet-is-at-centre-of-telegraphs-row-with-police

[jon1959]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

Allison Pearson’s ‘racist’ tweet is at centre of Telegraph’s row with police

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ow-with-police

The biggest mystery about this story is why news organisations put inverted commas around the word 'racist'!

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

The biggest mystery about this story is why news organisations put inverted commas around the word 'racist'!

And what exactly makes the situation Kafkaesque?

[Alan Lung]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

The biggest mystery about this story is why news organisations put inverted commas around the word 'racist'!

The inverted commas should be put around the word 'journalist'

[jon1959]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

The inverted commas should be put around the word 'journalist'

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

But should the police have been called out for this?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

But should the police have been called out for this?

Yes , to arrest her for being a horrible right wing twat

Shes a dreadful journalist and from the same gang as Melanie Phillips, Isobel Oakshott etc

Daily Mail , Telegraph, absolutely bargain basement crap pretending to be clever but barely disguising their ignorance

6 months , bread and water

[Elwood Blues]

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Yes , to afor being a horrible right wing twat

Shes a dreadful journalist and from the same gang as Melanie Phillips, Isobel Oakshott etc

Daily Mail , Telegraph, absolutely bargain basement crap pretending to be clever but barely disguising their ignorance

6 months , bread and water

On that basis a few horrible t***ts on here should be worried

Of all political shades.

Not just the right wing who are ignorant...... though admittedly they have their fair share

I hope someone else has a sensible answer to what was (meant to be) a serious question!

[jon1959]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

But should the police have been called out for this?

If the Essex Police had decided her sickening ignorant and racist tweet was 'just' a Non Crime Hate Incident as Pearson, the Telegraph, the Mail, Farage and Baddenock have claimed - maybe no.

But as it was never treated as a NCHI - and Essex Police have released the bodycam transcripts to prove Pearson was lying or not listening to them - and it was always treated as a potentially criminal offence - probably yes.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

If the Essex Police had decided her sickening ignorant and racist tweet was 'just' a Non Crime Hate Incident as Pearson, the Telegraph, the Mail, Farage and Baddenock have claimed - maybe no.

But as it was never treated as a NCHI - and Essex Police have released the bodycam transcripts to prove Pearson was lying or not listening to them - and it was always treated as a potentially criminal offence - probably yes.

But.do you think this admittedly crass tweet should be treated as a potentially criminal offence.

And according to one report I read, the police have only issued a partial transcript of the bodycam footage.

If that is true, shouldn't they release a transcript of all the footage from the incident to avoid any ambiguity?

[jon1959]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

But.do you think this admittedly crass tweet should be treated as a potentially criminal offence.

And according to one report I read, the police have only issued a partial transcript of the bodycam footage.

If that is true, shouldn't they release a transcript of all the footage from the incident to avoid any ambiguity?

I haven't got an opinion on your last two points - I don't know what rules or guidelines apply in that situation. On the first one there is a mountain of evidence that Muslims, anti-Zionists and brown people in general get a spike in threats and harassment after any social media attacks of the type Alison Pearson made. It was widely shared and liked. She may not know a Palestinian from a Pakistani and she may not know the difference between London and Manchester, but she spread racist shit and there are always consequences. My understanding was that Essex police came to her door, asking her to agree to an interview (under caution I assume) to help them (and ultimately the CPS) decide if there was merit in going further. I have no sympathy for her.

Two weeks ago I was on the latest national Gaza demonstration in London and a woman from our coach was arrested for carrying a placard that said 'Resistance Is Not Terrorism'. The words fully reflect international law. There was no support on the placard for any specific organisation - certainly not a proscribed one like Hamas. It was a statement of the internationally recognised rights of an occupied people. The Palestinian resistance takes many many different forms. It took 6-8 Met police, one cell, one interview room, a picket outside Hackney police station (miles from the place of arrest), and 10 hours before she was released. She was left almost 200 miles from home with her transport back having left 6 hours before. Various collections in London and on the M1 ensured she could pay for a ticket on the last train north. Another woman - from Liverpool - who I think was a Quaker was arrested on the same march for carrying a placard with a call to peace and accusing Israel and its military backers of genocide. I saw her arrested and there was nothing on the placard that (to my mind) provide even the flimsiest excuse for arrest. She was also held in Hackney and was not let go at the same time as the woman from my coach. She was stuck there at least overnight - and again it took a lot of police resources to arrest, hold and process her. I have bucket loads of sympathy for those two.

There are plenty of arguments about how police should allocate their limited resources - and whether some crimes or potential crimes should be ignored so they can concentrate on the ones we are told the public really care about. There should be a local and a national debate about those questions - and there are no easy answers, or answers that would get 100% backing. But I suspect that when some people (we all know who) come out with 'hurty words' and 'free speech' excuses for abuse and incitement they are doing it for their own political reasons - because they think those words and actions are acceptable - not because they think the police have made a mistake on resource allocation.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

On that basis a few horrible t***ts on here should be worried

Of all political shades.

Not just the right wing who are ignorant...... though admittedly they have their fair share

I hope someone else has a sensible answer to what was (meant to be) a serious question!

It's not looking good

Maybe they could gag her

Cotton wool in her chops

Cut off her Internet

That would get my vote

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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Yada yada

I had to look up what AP did and the Guardian reckons she criticised the Met police more than anything and mistook a flag with that of Hamas, calling them Jew haters. Maybe she admitted her error at the time.

However, just to be clear: this kind of thing, even though she would've been near the mark about Hamas, is incendiary and awful and "sickening" for Muslims but a banner suggesting Israel are committing genocide, a false rhetoric aimed at boosting sympathy for Palestine (and thus Hamas) and painting Israel as evil, will have no knock-on effects whatsoever for Jewish people?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Allison Pearson (journalist)

I had to look up what AP did and the Guardian reckons she criticised the Met police more than anything and mistook a flag with that of Hamas, calling them Jew haters. Maybe she admitted her error at the time.

However, just to be clear: this kind of thing, even though she would've been near the mark about Hamas, is incendiary and awful and "sickening" for Muslims but a banner suggesting Israel are committing genocide, a false rhetoric aimed at boosting sympathy for Palestine (and thus Hamas) and painting Israel as evil, will have no knock-on effects whatsoever for Jewish people?

A banner saying Israel is responsible for genocide is a justifiable criticism of Israeli government actions

That's clearly not the same as "hating Jews "

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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A banner saying Israel is responsible for genocide is a justifiable criticism of Israeli government actions

That's clearly not the same as "hating Jews "

But it would be a "justifiable criticism" of Hamas. Painting Israel as a genocidal state has resulted in opportunities for anti-semitism.