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  • #16
    Re: Facebook

    Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Fair enough. I didn't realise you were someone who is happy for billionaires to control our politics and, through social media, our thoughts.
    Are you including Soros and Gates or is it just the wrong ones you object to ?

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    • #17
      Re: Facebook

      Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
      Are you including Soros and Gates or is it just the wrong ones you object to ?
      Good one

      Plenty of millionaires control our media coverage too

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      • #18
        Re: Facebook

        There's been a tonne of criticism of fact checkers recently and they actually seem to do the opposite of what they were intended to do and of course are subject to bias themselves. The issue I find is more what they choose to fact check. So it's used selectively and not used other times, and the degree of scrutiny varies too.

        Probably more useful as a snappier intervention to call people out on clearly false statistics etc

        Whatever anyone else thinks of twitter, Community Notes is a pretty good system really and does democratise it somewhat

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        • #19
          Re: Facebook

          Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
          Are you including Soros and Gates or is it just the wrong ones you object to ?
          Snookered, well played! Same like everybody loved Zuckerberg when he was censoring specific opinions, but now they've suddenly gone off him.

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          • #20
            Re: Facebook

            Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
            Are you including Soros and Gates or is it just the wrong ones you object to ?
            That’s the exact point I made but the other way around - I tend to think they’re all as bad as each other.

            If they want to get into politics, run for office.

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            • #21
              Re: Facebook

              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              That’s the exact point I made but the other way around - I tend to think they’re all as bad as each other.

              If they want to get into politics, run for office.
              I agree with you, but it is fundamentally difficult isn't it, as by definition you have to be very wealthy to own a media company or wealthy (via your salary if nothing else) to run one. The answer, I guess, is things like social media which open things up to everyone.

              I've never really been s fan of social media. I sensed twitters role in being divisive years ago as it became clear that people were only reading the stuff the algorithms pushed on them. You have to consciously go out of your way to read different perspectives and many don't want to / don't know to do that.

              I would welcome greater regulation on data capture and the use of algorithms. This does well over my head though, but it can have serious consequences in terms of increasing divided societies.

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              • #22
                Re: Facebook

                Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                Are you including Soros and Gates or is it just the wrong ones you object to ?
                Are they the ones who control most of our printed news, or the biggest social media platforms that we use?

                America, UK and Australia are three of the most right wing countries in the world. They all have Rupert Murdoch in common.

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                • #23
                  Re: Facebook

                  Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                  Are they the ones who control most of our printed news, or the biggest social media platforms that we use?

                  America, UK and Australia are three of the most right wing countries in the world. They all have Rupert Murdoch in common.
                  Who controls the governments would be a more pertinent question, the rest is just PR.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Facebook

                    What sort of free speech is prevented by fact checking?

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                    • #25
                      Re: Facebook

                      Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                      Who controls the governments would be a more pertinent question, the rest is just PR.
                      Glad you've now mentioned this. Perhaps you'll now realise that most of the political debates are fleas arguing over a bald bloke, all designed to keep us off the scent of what is really going on, which is more wealth being taken away from normal people.

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