Welsh people culturally

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Welsh people culturally

Well that would be of course bollocks

If a person has Welsh as a first language, teaches ethnography at a Welsh university and wears a Welsh rugby daffodil or whatever then I would prefer she threw the daft hat away but she's clearly not a faux Taffy is she ?

But if she spent every Saturday during the football season ignoring Welsh teams to kiss the arse of English sides she would be exactly the sort of running with the horse and hounds type that deserves ridicule

It's really not difficult to rationalise even for a person who has an air of academic superiority like yourself

Thanks for rationalising!

[jon1959]

Re: Welsh people culturally

Another factor is the extent to which national identity defines each person.

For some it is everything. For TBG it seems it barely registers. I think for most of us it is just one of several/many different factors that make up our sense of ourselves - of who we are.

In my mind it is like a venn diagram of all my tribal affiliations (some inherited, some adopted as a conscious decision). Wales and Cardiff and Cardiff City are big ones, but so are my politics, the city where I live, the music and books and films that have influenced me or that I love, and family and friends.... and possibly other factors too.

I am Welsh but I have more in common with people in Belgium or Argentina or India who share my views and have similar life experiences than with reactionaries and new robber barons who happen to be Welsh and watched the Morcambe and Wise Christmas Special at the same time I did. When we talk about 'we' and 'us' that is not defined by having the same passport cover. There are Welsh people who are not 'us' to me and many people in other parts of the world who are.

[Dorcus]

Re: Welsh people culturally

I was born in Wales so I am regionally Welsh but simultaneously I was born in the UK so my nationality is British. I am not bonded by the heart to either. Above those I am European, Homo Sapien and a resident of Earth. All of which, particularly the latter being far more important IMO. Nationality and Regionality are mere administrative constructs with this strange concept of patriotism simply a means to enlist conscripts to war with alternative administrations whose ideals may happen to be at odds with our local administration's objectives.

It would be incomprehensible and absurd if I as an avowed Socialist should align myself with Welsh, British, (placeholder) rich capitalists against the mutual struggles of fellow genuine Socialists from alternative regimes.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Welsh people culturally

Another factor is the extent to which national identity defines each person.

For some it is everything. For TBG it seems it barely registers. I think for most of us it is just one of several/many different factors that make up our sense of ourselves - of who we are.

In my mind it is like a venn diagram of all my tribal affiliations (some inherited, some adopted as a conscious decision). Wales and Cardiff and Cardiff City are big ones, but so are my politics, the city where I live, the music and books and films that have influenced me or that I love, and family and friends.... and possibly other factors too.

I am Welsh but I have more in common with people in Belgium or Argentina or India who share my views and have similar life experiences than with reactionaries and new robber barons who happen to be Welsh and watched the Morcambe and Wise Christmas Special at the same time I did. When we talk about 'we' and 'us' that is not defined by having the same passport cover. There are Welsh people who are not 'us' to me and many people in other parts of the world who are.

It does actually register with me as I'm actually a halfway house, as it were:-). I was being a tad provocative as I do buy into some of the nationalistic side of it - whilst also seeing some of the illogical aspects

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Welsh people culturally

Thanks for rationalising!

You are very welcome you pompous old fruit

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Welsh people culturally

Another factor is the extent to which national identity defines each person.

For some it is everything. For TBG it seems it barely registers. I think for most of us it is just one of several/many different factors that make up our sense of ourselves - of who we are.

In my mind it is like a venn diagram of all my tribal affiliations (some inherited, some adopted as a conscious decision). Wales and Cardiff and Cardiff City are big ones, but so are my politics, the city where I live, the music and books and films that have influenced me or that I love, and family and friends.... and possibly other factors too.

I am Welsh but I have more in common with people in Belgium or Argentina or India who share my views and have similar life experiences than with reactionaries and new robber barons who happen to be Welsh and watched the Morcambe and Wise Christmas Special at the same time I did. When we talk about 'we' and 'us' that is not defined by having the same passport cover. There are Welsh people who are not 'us' to me and many people in other parts of the world who are.

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