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  • #46
    Re: Kneecap

    Originally posted by Rjk View Post
    I've not heard any of their music.
    They're not as good as Elbow.

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    • #47
      Re: Kneecap

      Originally posted by Doucas View Post
      So you want a safe space?
      What are you going on about now?

      I have no issue with bands making political statements through their music. I cant abide artists who use their live gigs to spout their political ideology. I'm there for the music, keep your opinions to yourself.

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      • #48
        Re: Kneecap

        Originally posted by HiVis View Post
        What are you going on about now?

        I have no issue with bands making political statements through their music. I cant abide artists who use their live gigs to spout their political ideology. I'm there for the music, keep your opinions to yourself.
        but it's their show, you don't get to dictate what they do or say in it. All you can do if you don't like it is not buy a ticket again

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        • #49
          Re: Kneecap

          Originally posted by delmbox View Post
          but it's their show, you don't get to dictate what they do or say in it. All you can do if you don't like it is not buy a ticket again
          Correct. I'm not sure why you're stating the obvious though.

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          • #50
            Re: Kneecap

            Yeah I don't think anyone questions any artists legal, moral or artistic right to make whatever political or religious statements they like. It's important they can, and people will judge them on it. Most bands will want to express themselves but also try to be inclusive, but that's up to them.

            The question here is whether a line has been crossed isn't it. I'm increasingly convinced it has tbh

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            • #51
              Re: Kneecap

              Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
              I have never been to a Kneecap gig, but my wild guess is that none of the thousands who went to see them at the Wide Awake Festival were surprised or put off by the political content of their performance.

              It is also my wild guess that many - if not most - went because they wanted to listen to that political content. It is surely what Kneecap are about?

              If you want to avoid politics in music, don't watch or listen to political bands. Artists should stick to what they want to do and say - not play safe.
              Kneecap are Irish republicans, and promote that ideology, as well as the furtherance of the Irish language, amongst other things. I'd be surprised if anyone in attendance were there for that.

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              • #52
                Re: Kneecap

                Originally posted by HiVis View Post
                What are you going on about now?

                I have no issue with bands making political statements through their music. I cant abide artists who use their live gigs to spout their political ideology. I'm there for the music, keep your opinions to yourself.
                I might be stating the obvious, but who are you to determine where he keeps his opinions?

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                • #53
                  Re: Kneecap

                  Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                  I might be stating the obvious, but who are you to determine where he keeps his opinions?
                  I think he's saying he prefers it when bands keep their political opinions to themselves and focus on the music, as opposed to saying they have no right to voice what they like. But I may be wrong.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Kneecap

                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    I think he's saying he prefers it when bands keep their political opinions to themselves and focus on the music, as opposed to saying they have no right to voice what they like. But I may be wrong.
                    Correct. If I wanted a political speech I'd go to a rally.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Kneecap

                      Originally posted by HiVis View Post
                      Correct. If I wanted a political speech I'd go to a rally.
                      I'm guessing that a fair few of the people who were there to see Kneecap would have been aware of what they're about, especially with todays technology and information. They're quite a radical band even before the politics kick in, and there's a few visual signs that may lead a person to believe that there may be some kind of message attached, like the balaclava, the Tricoulour, and the lyrics........ If a person aint getting it within the first 30 seconds of play, then they must be either daft of big Stone Roses fans........ :hehe: :thumbup:

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                      • #56
                        Re: Kneecap

                        Originally posted by HiVis View Post
                        Correct. If I wanted a political speech I'd go to a rally.
                        You sound like those Republicans who thought Rage Against the Machine were conservative and then don't want them to be political when they find out the reality :hehe:

                        But I get your point of view, it must be exhausting being conservative and getting called out for your abhorrent views when socialising.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Kneecap

                          Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                          You sound like those Republicans who thought Rage Against the Machine were conservative and then don't want them to be political when they find out the reality :hehe:

                          But I get your point of view, it must be exhausting being conservative and getting called out for your abhorrent views when socialising.
                          I think the abhorrent views in this thread refer to calling for the killing of MPs, and shouting and waving support for banned terrorist groups.. Suddenly everyone has become free speech warriors!👍

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                          • #58
                            Re: Kneecap

                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            I think the abhorrent views in this thread refer to calling for the killing of MPs, and shouting and waving support for banned terrorist groups.. Suddenly everyone has become free speech warriors!👍
                            Who's view has supported the call to kill MP's and shouting and waving support of terrorist groups?

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                            • #59
                              Re: Kneecap

                              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                              I think the abhorrent views in this thread refer to calling for the killing of MPs, and shouting and waving support for banned terrorist groups.. Suddenly everyone has become free speech warriors!��
                              That word means nothing.

                              Nelson Mandela was on the US terrorist watchlist until 2013.

                              Ghandi was called a terrorist as was Martin Luther King.

                              Palestinian civilians are called terrorists to this day.

                              It's a buzzword to smear people for simpletons to lose their minds about.

                              How many innocent people did the British kill in Iraq? Weird how we weren't called terrorists.

                              You support policies that have lead to the biggest decrease in living standards in living memory, was it a remainer who killed a MP in 2016? So yeah your lot are abhorrent.

                              Hope the part time parenting is going well.

                              C ya James.

                              :thumbup:

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                              • #60
                                Re: Kneecap

                                Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                                That word means nothing.

                                Nelson Mandela was on the US terrorist watchlist until 2013.

                                Ghandi was called a terrorist as was Martin Luther King.

                                Palestinian civilians are called terrorists to this day.

                                It's a buzzword to smear people for simpletons to lose their minds about.

                                How many innocent people did the British kill in Iraq? Weird how we weren't called terrorists.

                                You support policies that have lead to the biggest decrease in living standards in living memory, was it a remainer who killed a MP in 2016? So yeah your lot are abhorrent.

                                Hope the part time parenting is going well.

                                C ya James.

                                :thumbup:
                                Wow, you read somethings on here, and then you read that confused mess.

                                What an absolute wnker.

                                Imagine picking the defence of Islamic extremism as your hill to die on.

                                Suddenly I doubt HiViz minds being labeled abhorrent by you at all.

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