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  • #91
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    What type of music do Hubcap make?

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    • #92
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      Originally posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
      Are they any good?
      I read that they were a parody like GLC.
      They are superb, not a parody at all.

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      • #93
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        They are good. There's a comic element to some of their output (including the film) but they aren't a parody. The issue most definitely isn't the music, it's their commentary. Yesterday they still managed to refer to Rod Stewart as "Rod the Prod". Maybe that's funny, but if its funny if someone uses a derogatory word against other religions.

        Th band on stage before them (Bob Vylan) is also very good - I was raised on Rage Against the Machine who they basically sound like a tribute act of- but they will likely face an investigation now after leading chants calling for "Death to the IDF"

        The prime minister describes the punk duo's Glastonbury chants calling for death to Israel's military as "hate speech".


        Sounds like there was a lot of good music but also a lot of genuine hatred in that arena yesterday.

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        • #94
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          Worth repeating this here for those that didn’t follow it from the Hamas thread…

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          • #95
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            Originally posted by DINGO COOPER View Post
            They are superb, not a parody at all.
            They are utter gash, hence why they need all the publicity to get their name known.

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            • #96
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              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
              They are good. There's a comic element to some of their output (including the film) but they aren't a parody. The issue most definitely isn't the music, it's their commentary. Yesterday they still managed to refer to Rod Stewart as "Rod the Prod". Maybe that's funny, but if its funny if someone uses a derogatory word against other religions.

              Th band on stage before them (Bob Vylan) is also very good - I was raised on Rage Against the Machine who they basically sound like a tribute act of- but they will likely face an investigation now after leading chants calling for "Death to the IDF"

              The prime minister describes the punk duo's Glastonbury chants calling for death to Israel's military as "hate speech".


              Sounds like there was a lot of good music but also a lot of genuine hatred in that arena yesterday.
              On my last shindig in Belfast on sale were 'Proud to be Proddy' assorted crap.

              I'm not sure it's the derogatory term you feel it is?

              Bob Vylan, I'd imagine could be getting a knock on the door.

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              • #97
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                Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                On my last shindig in Belfast on sale were 'Proud to be Proddy' assorted crap.

                I'm not sure it's the derogatory term you feel it is?

                Bob Vylan, I'd imagine could be getting a knock on the door.
                Yeah there's a few words that have a different meaning depending on who says it. Rod Stewart is Catholic apparently, but raised Protestant. There's a few Celtic fans who don't like him cos he's not pure enough in his views though.

                That's what I don't like about them. They are just dripping in sectarianism wherever you turn. That's not illegal of course, but it's unsavoury and part of the problem, not the solution. The Hezbollah flags and shouting up Hamas / talking about dead MPs is an ongoing legal matter of course and something different again.

                I think what the singer from Bob Vylan did was absolutely stupid and really made me wince actually and interesting to see Emily Eavis condemn it. Not the publicity they want I think, as whilst Glastonbury is criticized and mocked a little sometimes, it's vibe is fundamentally about peace and love and tolerance, not hate speech.

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                • #98
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                  Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                  Yeah there's a few words that have a different meaning depending on who says it. Rod Stewart is Catholic apparently, but raised Protestant. There's a few Celtic fans who don't like him cos he's not pure enough in his views though.

                  That's what I don't like about them. They are just dripping in sectarianism wherever you turn. That's not illegal of course, but it's unsavoury and part of the problem, not the solution. The Hezbollah flags and shouting up Hamas / talking about dead MPs is an ongoing legal matter of course and something different again.

                  I think what the singer from Bob Vylan did was absolutely stupid and really made me wince actually and interesting to see Emily Eavis condemn it. Not the publicity they want I think, as whilst Glastonbury is criticized and mocked a little sometimes, it's vibe is fundamentally about peace and love and tolerance, not hate speech.
                  You watch the Eavis family tighten up on political speeches in future. If Vylan are charged (and they should be), Eavis will need to provide a statement to the police, which they will not appreciate.

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                  • #99
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                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    Yeah there's a few words that have a different meaning depending on who says it. Rod Stewart is Catholic apparently, but raised Protestant. There's a few Celtic fans who don't like him cos he's not pure enough in his views though.

                    That's what I don't like about them. They are just dripping in sectarianism wherever you turn. That's not illegal of course, but it's unsavoury and part of the problem, not the solution. The Hezbollah flags and shouting up Hamas / talking about dead MPs is an ongoing legal matter of course and something different again.

                    I think what the singer from Bob Vylan did was absolutely stupid and really made me wince actually and interesting to see Emily Eavis condemn it. Not the publicity they want I think, as whilst Glastonbury is criticized and mocked a little sometimes, it's vibe is fundamentally about peace and love and tolerance, not hate speech.
                    Rod Stewart's been deemed a massive **** since his support of Enoch Powell in the 70s, he wasn't alone mind cause Eric Clapton was another.

                    The fact Rod supports Celtic with all the political baggage some of their support carry must grip those same supporters.

                    He probably would've felt more at home supporting Rangers (joke Jimmy the Jock).

                    Shouldn't Rod have supported Arsenal?

                    As for Kneecap, I got them down as satirical, sometimes comedic rather than sectarian. They certainly use parody to highlight issues, do they cross the line with some things? I think that depends on your viewpoints.

                    I've not seen the Hezbollah thing and the issue about dead MPs may well lead to trouble. Whether they meant it or let his mouth run off only they know?

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                    • Re: Kneecap

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      Yeah there's a few words that have a different meaning depending on who says it. Rod Stewart is Catholic apparently, but raised Protestant. There's a few Celtic fans who don't like him cos he's not pure enough in his views though.

                      That's what I don't like about them. They are just dripping in sectarianism wherever you turn. That's not illegal of course, but it's unsavoury and part of the problem, not the solution. The Hezbollah flags and shouting up Hamas / talking about dead MPs is an ongoing legal matter of course and something different again.

                      I think what the singer from Bob Vylan did was absolutely stupid and really made me wince actually and interesting to see Emily Eavis condemn it. Not the publicity they want I think, as whilst Glastonbury is criticized and mocked a little sometimes, it's vibe is fundamentally about peace and love and tolerance, not hate speech.
                      I've mentioned before I don't like my favorite bands bleating on about politics on stage, this guy intentionally was getting some notoriety and he's succeeded his words were awful but there is a but for me on this, the politicians of the UK, America, Europe have failed a race of people who have been slaughtered all of my adult life when and how does this stop? If our politicians basically turn a blind eye to it, if British justice is to remain consistent, the guy should do some porridge but the issue is more important than this, an apology to the Jewish people but not the Jewish leadership inc. their security forces should suffice in this instance.

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                      • Re: Kneecap

                        Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                        On my last shindig in Belfast on sale were 'Proud to be Proddy' assorted crap.

                        I'm not sure it's the derogatory term you feel it is?

                        Bob Vylan, I'd imagine could be getting a knock on the door.

                        Don'y you mean a knock on Heaven's door?

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                        • Re: Kneecap

                          There's not an elephant in the room when it comes to the Kneecap/Bob Vylan furore, there's a blue whale

                          Breaking : Israel says Kneecap are only weeks away from developing Nuclear weapons #Kneecap #Glastonbury #Glasto https://t.co/O5tJdNZbKh


                          I think it went too far on Saturday, but there's a reason why people are so angry.

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                          • Re: Kneecap

                            It looks like wishing death upon a genocidal army is a hate crime now.

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                            • Re: Kneecap

                              Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                              I've mentioned before I don't like my favorite bands bleating on about politics on stage, this guy intentionally was getting some notoriety and he's succeeded his words were awful but there is a but for me on this, the politicians of the UK, America, Europe have failed a race of people who have been slaughtered all of my adult life when and how does this stop? If our politicians basically turn a blind eye to it, if British justice is to remain consistent, the guy should do some porridge but the issue is more important than this, an apology to the Jewish people but not the Jewish leadership inc. their security forces should suffice in this instance.
                              There are ways of saying our politicians have failed without calling for the killing of anyone.

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                              • Re: Kneecap

                                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                                Don'y you mean a knock on Heaven's door?
                                The times, they are a'changin.

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