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  • #76
    Re: Runcorn by election.

    Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Starmers response to the reduced Labour vote is an interesting one.

    Rather than pull back on policies such as benefit cuts he appears to suggest they need to become more like Reform/Tories.

    Good to see Sir Kier as a man of principles (the massive cuunt).
    Stagnant wages at low/mid levels shrinking the potential targets for increased taxation, growing retired class due to property wealth and a massive increase in numbers in receipt of some kind of disability benefit basically puts the government (whoever it is) in a no win situation. The numbers don't add up now and that will only get worse over the coming years with the increase in prevalence of disabilities amongst teenagers.

    Have read a fair few 'labour need to be more labour to win over voters' articles/quotes and all they talk about is cancelling benefit cuts (including means testing of wfa). Might be blunt of me but my version of labour 'being more labour' would involve becoming bolder and more ambitious on policies that affect everyone in the UK, I can't see that happening with reeves as chancellor though.

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    • #77
      Re: Runcorn by election.

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      That's all very romantic but the rot started with thatcherism

      I sincerely hope starmer is forced out sooner rather than later
      Guaranteed you live in a home thats paid off.

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      • #78
        Re: Runcorn by election.

        Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
        Interested to see what they actually do with a bit of power. Seen precious little in the way of policy ideas from them at the moment. I think so far they've been all about stoking anger, very easy to be all things to all people when that's your approach. I'm not expecting great things, but you never know, they may surprise .

        Really do think they're going to come unstuck though. It seems like a fair part of the population thinks that local councils are spaffing all the money that should go on bin collections and potholes on DEI and immigrants. When reform are the ones who have to explain that actually the majority of funds are going on care, with a small percentage left for the rest, what will their supporters think?
        Councils by and large spend their money on statutory duties relating to social care and SEND. The public think they spend all their money on collecting bins and fixing potholes.

        I remember watching a question on local authorities during one of the leaders debates before the general election and all Rishi and Starmer talked about was bins and potholes.

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        • #79
          Re: Runcorn by election.

          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
          Same old story. People who have housing security slagging off those who don't.

          The difference is that the left isn't offering any answers whatsoever. I bet all of you that bleat on here have homes with mortgages paid off. No idea how things are in the real world nowadays.
          Have you been on the piss ?

          I don't think housing security or lack of it has anything to do with dislike of farage and right wing voting

          Lots of daft old racists in retirement with second homes ticking the box for reform

          What a load of nonsense

          Go to bed you drunk 🥴

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          • #80
            Re: Runcorn by election.

            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            Have you been on the piss ?

            I don't think housing security or lack of it has anything to do with dislike of farage and right wing voting

            Lots of daft old racists in retirement with second homes ticking the box for reform

            What a load of nonsense

            Go to bed you drunk 🥴
            Yadda Yadda. You live in a home with no mortgage, right?

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            • #81
              Re: Runcorn by election.

              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
              Guaranteed you live in a home thats paid off.
              Yes you are definitely pissed up again

              It's perfectly possible to be financially OK yet dislike the likes of farage and reform and the divisive policies they promote

              And , of course , far more people are voting against farage , even without counting the Conservative vote .....than are supporting him

              So whilst it's clear you have for some time been jumping aboard his motorbike as far as I and the majority of the voting public are concerned we ain't being fooled

              That applies to plenty of people with loads of cash and more financial security than the likes of anyone in the real world that you speak of and loads with absolutely nothing

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              • #82
                Re: Runcorn by election.

                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                Have you been on the piss ?

                I don't think housing security or lack of it has anything to do with dislike of farage and right wing voting

                Lots of daft old racists in retirement with second homes ticking the box for reform

                What a load of nonsense

                Go to bed you drunk ��
                So the only people who vote Labour, liberal or conservative and don't like the right wing reform party are home owners with financial security

                And the people who vote reform are renting

                Like you

                Or pissed

                Or both

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                • #83
                  Re: Runcorn by election.

                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  So the only people who vote Labour, liberal or conservative and don't like the right wing reform party are home owners with financial security

                  And the people who vote reform are renting

                  Like you

                  Or pissed

                  Or both
                  Of courrse thats not the case. But there is an underlying tone of comfort from most of you guys.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Runcorn by election.

                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    Of courrse thats not the case. But there is an underlying tone of comfort from most of you guys.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Runcorn by election.

                      When are the next elections here in Wales? Going to be interesting

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                      • #86
                        Re: Runcorn by election.

                        Originally posted by goats View Post
                        When are the next elections here in Wales? Going to be interesting
                        May next year , 2026 I think

                        I think reform will win which is ironically amusing given that the idiots in charge has arranged for an extra 30 seats for what is a joke of a parliament and so amateurish





                        Eluned Morgan is starting to distance herself from Labour in Westminster but it's too late

                        Carwyn Jones has been the only decent leader in 25 years

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                        • #87
                          Re: Runcorn by election.

                          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                          Of courrse thats not the case. But there is an underlying tone of comfort from most of you guys.
                          Cobblers

                          Next you will be saying you have to be living in Gaza to comment on the Palestinian situation

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                          • #88
                            Re: Runcorn by election.

                            Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                            I'm a bit older than yourself although TBF you do look about 10 years older than me.
                            Ouch!

                            Post pics or it didn't happen

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                            • #89
                              Re: Runcorn by election.

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              That's all very romantic but the rot started with thatcherism

                              I sincerely hope starmer is forced out sooner rather than later
                              Wow, You want Nigel ? personally i think the rot started with Robert Walpole.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Runcorn by election.

                                Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                                Wow, You want Nigel ? personally i think the rot started with Robert Walpole.
                                No I would rather that shocker kemi tory girl than Nigel Farage

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