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  • #91
    Re: Runcorn by election.

    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Ouch!

    Post pics or it didn't happen
    He's living in the clouds with that one

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    • #92
      Re: Runcorn by election.

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      No I would rather that shocker kemi tory girl than Nigel Farage
      I have to go out for a few hours but some light hearted reading for you whilst watching the premier league games.


      British Prime Ministers

      I was 1st eligible to Vote in 1979

      Our prime ministers since and including 1979

      1979 – Margaret Thatcher
      1990 – John major
      1997 – Tony Blair
      2007 – Gordon Brown
      2010 – David Cameron
      2016 – Theresa May
      2019 – Boris Johnson
      2022 – Rishi Sunak
      2024 – Keir Starmer

      Lettuce Liz hasn’t been included (50 days !!!)

      On the basis of full years only, I have lived under Tory rule for 30 years and labour Rule for 13 years, the 1st 18 years from birth hasn’t been included.

      19 of the years have been with WEF stooges running the country
      13 of years of the WEF stooges have been under Labour
      6 of years of the WEF stooges have been under the Tories (David Cameron)
      24 of the years have been without the PM being a WEF stooge with 11 of these years attributed to Maggie


      Never once have I voted for a Tory at national level or at local level but!! and there is usually a but!!!, I stopped voting GE’s at Tony Blair, it was an easy decision to make once it was established that his government in lock step with Bush and other leaders in Europe bombed the shit out of IRAQ based on lies, I have voted in local elections periodically since, usually Labour but have gone independent on two occasions, not voting Tory isn’t a badge of honour, people are entitled to vote for their preferred choice in a democracy, I tend to think that the family background has a profound affect with your politics especially when younger, with my family coming out of Grangetown and Splott, it was only going to be RED although oddly one of my Grandparents who was a steelworker was a big Maggie voter.

      My PM ratings

      1979 – Margaret Thatcher, Heartless and a Warmonger
      1990 – John Major, a bit of a nothing burger only notoriety was that of porking Edwina
      1997 – Tony Blair, worst prime minister of my lifetime and should have been prosecuted for War Crimes
      2007 – Gordon Brown, a disaster selling more than half of the countries Gold reserves for a song (who benefitted ? !!!)
      2010 – David Cameron, another nothing burger but shit himself after giving the Brexit Vote and it didn’t go as he expected, a yellow streak of piss
      2016 – Theresa May, a full-on globalist WEFer, totally fkin spineless and useless
      2019 – Boris Johnson, if we didn’t have Tony Blair, would be my candidate for worst, lying sack of shit (even bigger liar than the rest), wash your hands, Just F**K off.
      2022 – Rishi Sunak was Labours biggest asset, weak with no bollox.
      2024 – Keir Starmer, lets see how it pans out but hasn’t been a very good start, if he lasts the distance, he may well out lie Boris Johnson

      Next PM, its pointing at Farage at the moment but I do see the elections between the general elections as protest votes and I suspect that people will revert to type at the next GE, I do hope I’m around to see his smug grin disappear in an instant. But having lived for 30 years under PM’s I didn’t vote for (democracy) Farage if elected would just be business as usual.
      Have a good day watching Liverpool Later

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      • #93
        Re: Runcorn by election.

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        Guaranteed you live in a home thats paid off.
        lets hope he doesn't live in rented accommodation , because as a slum landlord myself , l'm taking serco's money

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        • #94
          Re: Runcorn by election.

          I wonder if more than 6 coffin dodgers or more than 6 Waspi women voted reform? Breaking a manifesto has consequences.

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          • #95
            Re: Runcorn by election.

            If Starmer is forced out by his own MPs then it's vital Reeves goes with him

            Pair of shockers

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            • #96
              Re: Runcorn by election.

              The complacency in the final paragraph here is breathtaking.

              Anger over the party's drubbing in last week's local elections has not dissipated over the weekend.


              As is the assumption that voters will return to Labour in a general election where Prime Minister Farage is a realistic prospect.

              There’s no way I’d vote Farage, but, based on their record so far, there’s no way I’ll be voting Labour either.

              Meanwhile Keir “I get it” Starmer is saying there’ll be no change of policy regarding cold weather payments and benefit cuts.:facepalm:

              Calls to abandon cuts to the pensions top-up have grown in the wake of local election losses last week.

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              • #97
                Re: Runcorn by election.

                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                If Starmer is forced out by his own MPs then it's vital Reeves goes with him

                Pair of shockers
                The problem is, who will replace him.

                The dearth of suitable candidates for the leaders job in either main party is far worse than it has ever been since I began to have an understanding of politics in the sixties.

                Perhaps with the exception of Andy Burnham, but he is not an MP at present.

                I am not sure there is a suitable Tory, with the possible exception of Tom Tughendat

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                • #98
                  Re: Runcorn by election.

                  Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                  The complacency in the final paragraph here is breathtaking.

                  Anger over the party's drubbing in last week's local elections has not dissipated over the weekend.


                  As is the assumption that voters will return to Labour in a general election where Prime Minister Farage is a realistic prospect.

                  There’s no way I’d vote Farage, but, based on their record so far, there’s no way I’ll be voting Labour either.

                  Meanwhile Keir “I get it” Starmer is saying there’ll be no change of policy regarding cold weather payments and benefit cuts.:facepalm:

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0xee5krnno
                  I am not convinced it's as breathtaking as you think. We have already seen an association with the American right/trump costing votes in Germany and elections in Canada and Australia.

                  Farage and Reform are already leaning hard into phoney doge and dei narratives and will doubtlessly continue to be trump-aligned until the bitter end. I actually think the prospect of marmite pantomime villain Farage becoming PM might be the only thing that can save Labour at the next election although some kind of LD/LAB coalition certainly looks more likely right now.

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                  • #99
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                    • Re: Runcorn by election.

                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      Someone is getting worried about next year's Sender election!

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                      • Re: Runcorn by election.

                        Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                        I am not convinced it's as breathtaking as you think. We have already seen an association with the American right/trump costing votes in Germany and elections in Canada and Australia.

                        Farage and Reform are already leaning hard into phoney doge and dei narratives and will doubtlessly continue to be trump-aligned until the bitter end. I actually think the prospect of marmite pantomime villain Farage becoming PM might be the only thing that can save Labour at the next election although some kind of LD/LAB coalition certainly looks more likely right now.
                        The votes for a Lib lab coalition do not add up

                        Unless Labour get about ten percent more than they have the only coalition will be between reform and the Tories

                        Starmer has had it I would think

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                        • Re: Runcorn by election.

                          Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
                          The problem is, who will replace him.

                          The dearth of suitable candidates for the leaders job in either main party is far worse than it has ever been since I began to have an understanding of politics in the sixties.

                          Perhaps with the exception of Andy Burnham, but he is not an MP at present.

                          I am not sure there is a suitable Tory, with the possible exception of Tom Tughendat
                          He's a good guy

                          I will never vote Tory but like Major or Clarke or Howe or Hurd they would be a million miles preferable to Farage

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                          • Re: Runcorn by election.

                            Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
                            Someone is getting worried about next year's Sender election!
                            It's just a "dog whistle" issue isn't it ?

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                            • Re: Runcorn by election.

                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              The complacency in the final paragraph here is breathtaking.

                              Anger over the party's drubbing in last week's local elections has not dissipated over the weekend.


                              As is the assumption that voters will return to Labour in a general election where Prime Minister Farage is a realistic prospect.

                              There’s no way I’d vote Farage, but, based on their record so far, there’s no way I’ll be voting Labour either.

                              Meanwhile Keir “I get it” Starmer is saying there’ll be no change of policy regarding cold weather payments and benefit cuts.:facepalm:

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0xee5krnno
                              If come the next election it's clear that Labour are sunk and a vote for them will be a waste of time then I will vote green or liberal

                              If Starmer and his gang don't alter course then they don't deserve any support at all

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                              • Re: Runcorn by election.

                                Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
                                Someone is getting worried about next year's Sender election!
                                I would rather a Plaid Labour Coaltion ......on 48 percent of the vote .......tgan a Reform Tory one on 38 percent ......which is what that sort of vote shares gives

                                I am surprised the Labour vote is as high as 18 percent given the complete lack of charisma and decent policy since Carwyn Jones stepped down

                                I never thought I would say this but maybe Plaid can help keep farage and his mob from the door until Labour stop their seemingly terminal decline

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