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  • #16
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    Originally posted by DubaiDai View Post
    True. A friend of mine who lives in Ton Pentre told me if Labour put forward a sheep at the next election, his money would be on it to win.
    When I talked about 22 consecutive years of a Labour controlled Sennedd, I asked him what their major achievements were. “We have kept the tories out for 22 years”was his reply.
    Says it all. No real achievements other than being 4th in the UK table for the economy, health and education.
    Listening to Mr Tortoise earlier, kept referring to ".. across the border in England ..". Whether it's Wales or Scotland, it's mainly about being anti-English. Small nations with massive chips on their shoulders.

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by DubaiDai View Post
      True. A friend of mine who lives in Ton Pentre told me if Labour put forward a sheep at the next election, his money would be on it to win.
      When I talked about 22 consecutive years of a Labour controlled Sennedd, I asked him what their major achievements were. “We have kept the tories out for 22 years”was his reply.
      Says it all. No real achievements other than being 4th in the UK table for the economy, health and education.
      I’ve watched Johnson interviewed many times and he blusters incoherently, stutters over his words and leaves you thinking what the hell was he on about. I watched Drakeford this morning on BBC breakfast news, he took his time listening to the questions, thought before answering and then answered coherently and with confident common sense. Drakeford beats Johnson hands down in displaying leadership qualities, I don’t want some mop haired, blabbering buffoon making decisions for me, I want the sensible person with the measured approach, not that I always think he’s 100% correct, speaking in a language that I understand and a reasoning that’s believable. And that bloke the Tories had or have still got as their Welsh leader well say no more, at least he gave us all a laugh in the clip of him they showed on Have I Got News For You the other week, that was the highlight of his campaign. Perhaps us Welsh are a bit more sensible and less gullible than those over the border, the recent election results seem to prove it.

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
        Don’t you mean in the money?
        What has he done wrong then Bob???

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
          Listening to Mr Tortoise earlier, kept referring to ".. across the border in England ..". Whether it's Wales or Scotland, it's mainly about being anti-English. Small nations with massive chips on their shoulders.

          It is across the border, isn’t it? Mr Tortoise:hehe: did you see how far ahead vote wise he was against the hares in his constituency? Dear God, Tories UK wide aren’t very likeable when it comes to politics but Welsh Tories certainly win the whinging stakes after another caning here.

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          • #20
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            It does make me laugh when Tories moan about voters who keep voting Labour. Are they for real? In hundreds of seats in England you could stick a blue rosette on a pig and it would still win for the Tories.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by DubaiDai View Post
              True. A friend of mine who lives in Ton Pentre told me if Labour put forward a sheep at the next election, his money would be on it to win.
              When I talked about 22 consecutive years of a Labour controlled Sennedd, I asked him what their major achievements were. “We have kept the tories out for 22 years”was his reply.
              Says it all. No real achievements other than being 4th in the UK table for the economy, health and education.
              What achievements have the Tories had U.K. wide in the past eleven years?

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
                What has he done wrong then Bob???
                His crime is being Welsh born and raised, and then having the cheek to become a barrister and move to England and leave a lucrative legal career behind to serve politics. As a “Tory” !!! He must be on the take, corrupt, the devil incarnate indeed. Or, alternatively and more plausibly, many Welsh vote like sheep because they’re indoctrinated. I wonder how the “staunch” Labour man/woman/non-gender specific voter feels about raising children who demand the latest smart phone, PlayStation or X-Box, leisure wear from leading brands etc. Which means feeding the capitalist pigs! I can only imagine the sleepless nights this fear must cause. Still, we’ve kept the Tory party for out for 20+ years. We’re doing just fine !!!

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Pearcey3 View Post
                  It does make me laugh when Tories moan about voters who keep voting Labour. Are they for real? In hundreds of seats in England you could stick a blue rosette on a pig and it would still win for the Tories.
                  Both Labour and the Conservatives have a lot of seats where a pig in a correctly coloured rosette could win for the right party.

                  It is probably a time to start worrying when those seats fall to the other side by a lot of votes as in the case of Hartlepool.

                  The Conservatives shouldn't get too cocky though. Results such as the West of England Mayoral race suggest that it could happen the other way as well.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by DubaiDai View Post
                    True. A friend of mine who lives in Ton Pentre told me if Labour put forward a sheep at the next election, his money would be on it to win.
                    When I talked about 22 consecutive years of a Labour controlled Sennedd, I asked him what their major achievements were. “We have kept the tories out for 22 years”was his reply.
                    Says it all. No real achievements other than being 4th in the UK table for the economy, health and education.
                    And that's where we will stay , being subsided by scum controlled Tory money and happy to take it how ironic 🙄

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                    • #25
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                      I think it's some achievement in the Uk, and some sort of record, that a single party has held office for 22 years, and won 6 successive elections. That's us in Wales, none of the other home nations or the Uk government can say that in modern history.

                      And despite Mr Andrew 'RT' Davies saying otherwise there mainly a swing away from the Tories and to Labour. H

                      However, with the SNP wining Scotland, there is not a hope of Labour winning a UK election any time soon./ Nice to se that the whole of South East Wales is red though. Unlike that lot in Hartlepool, like the bloke on the TV asked why he voted Tory and answer that they now have 9 food banks and under Labour they didn't have any!!!

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by Lord Dargavel View Post
                        His crime is being Welsh born and raised, and then having the cheek to become a barrister and move to England and leave a lucrative legal career behind to serve politics. As a “Tory” !!! He must be on the take, corrupt, the devil incarnate indeed. Or, alternatively and more plausibly, many Welsh vote like sheep because they’re indoctrinated. I wonder how the “staunch” Labour man/woman/non-gender specific voter feels about raising children who demand the latest smart phone, PlayStation or X-Box, leisure wear from leading brands etc. Which means feeding the capitalist pigs! I can only imagine the sleepless nights this fear must cause. Still, we’ve kept the Tory party for out for 20+ years. We’re doing just fine !!!
                        So the Welsh Labour voters are indoctrinated sheep but that doesn't apply to the millions of tory voters in the South East of England, Norfolk , Sussex , Warwickshire, Oxfordshire who vote for anyone in a blue rosette ?

                        Thats a bit daft

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by Pearcey3 View Post
                          It does make me laugh when Tories moan about voters who keep voting Labour. Are they for real? In hundreds of seats in England you could stick a blue rosette on a pig and it would still win for the Tories.
                          The recent elections prove that Wales & England are different so having a go at Drakeford for saying ‘across the border’ as some anti English remark is absurd. It is different across the border, the ballot box proved it.

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                            And that's where we will stay , being subsided by scum controlled Tory money and happy to take it how ironic 🙄
                            well lots of areas of England get subsidies from the tory money of the South East? They hate the tories in Liverpool

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Lord Dargavel View Post
                              His crime is being Welsh born and raised, and then having the cheek to become a barrister and move to England and leave a lucrative legal career behind to serve politics. As a “Tory” !!! He must be on the take, corrupt, the devil incarnate indeed.
                              No, his 'crimes' are breaking the legal profession Code of Conduct (before being rewarded by Cameron with his appointment to the job of Solicitor General), tax dodging through his investments in Invicta Film Partnership, blaming the public (not Cummins or serial hand-shaker Johnson) for the spread of Covid, defending Matt Hancock for breaking the law by not publishing Covid contracts (the ones to Tory cronies and the other ones!), defending the Government's decision to break international law over Brexit, and by pronouncing that it is OK for governments to break any law, but probably not OK for them to break that same law twice. He is also an embarrassment when regularly sent out as a whipping boy on morning radio and TV whenever Johnson or the government have cocked up and everyone else is in hiding. There is loyalty and spin, and then there is the inept and shameless crap that Buckland offers up!

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                                No, his 'crimes' are breaking the legal profession Code of Conduct (before being rewarded by Cameron with his appointment to the job of Solicitor General), tax dodging through his investments in Invicta Film Partnership, blaming the public (not Cummins or serial hand-shaker Johnson) for the spread of Covid, defending Matt Hancock for breaking the law by not publishing Covid contracts (the ones to Tory cronies and the other ones!), defending the Government's decision to break international law over Brexit, and by pronouncing that it is OK for governments to break any law, but probably not OK for them to break that same law twice. He is also an embarrassment when regularly sent out as a whipping boy on morning radio and TV whenever Johnson or the government have cocked up and everyone else is in hiding. There is loyalty and spin, and then there is the inept and shameless crap that Buckland offers up!
                                But apart from that

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