Hungarian election

[Eric Cartman]

Possibly the most impactful political event in a while.

Such a curious situation, a corrupt Russia-aligned mole in the EU being actively puffed by America with Vance's visit and Trump's warm words is possibly about to lose the election and will likely claim 'electoral interference' if he does.

I can't help but feel this ends in a complete mess at best and potentially massive civil unrest at worst.

[jon1959]

Re: Hungarian election

Possibly the most impactful political event in a while.

Such a curious situation, a corrupt Russia-aligned mole in the EU being actively puffed by America with Vance's visit and Trump's warm words is possibly about to lose the election and will likely claim 'electoral interference' if he does.

I can't help but feel this ends in a complete mess at best and potentially massive civil unrest at worst.

The few things I have read and listened to about the Hungarian election (one podcast yesterday) left me with the clear impression there is very little policy difference between Orban and Magyar. Didn't Magyar start off in Orban's party? They both come from the right, both are nativists, both (Orban more so) are Christian nationalists. Magyar may be more friendly to the EU, more inclined to give tax breaks to Hungarian capitalists, less likely to pick up the phone to Putin and Trump - but he emerged from the same swamp.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Hungarian election

The few things I have read and listened to about the Hungarian election (one podcast yesterday) left me with the clear impression there is very little policy difference between Orban and Magyar. Didn't Magyar start off in Orban's party? They both come from the right, both are nativists, both (Orban more so) are Christian nationalists. Magyar may be more friendly to the EU, more inclined to give tax breaks to Hungarian capitalists, less likely to pick up the phone to Putin and Trump - but he emerged from the same swamp.

Yeah that seems to be pretty true, which makes the intervention from America even more peculiar. It can only be a direct attempt to weaken the EU by using it's potential for being a democratic quagmire against it.

But a step in the right direction is still a step. I just can't see Orban leaving easily, could get very messy.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Hungarian election

Orban’s conceded already, it’s a landslide seemingly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2d8zw2d3rkt

[jon1959]

Re: Hungarian election

Given it was a two horse race, the best horse won.

The other horse was weighed down by carrying three jockeys - Victor Orban, Vladimir Putin and JD Vance!

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-buzz/the-jd-vance-effect-victor-orbans-defeat-in-hungary-sparks-mockery-of-us-vp-article-154062282

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Hungarian election

Given it was a two horse race, the best horse won.

The other horse was weighed down by carrying three jockeys - Victor Orban, Vladimir Putin and JD Vance!


https://www.timesnownews.com/world/u...icle-154062282

Yes, what’s replacing Orban doesn’t sound great, but it’s clearly an improvement- hard to avoid a feeling that anti American (Trump/Vance) feelings have played a part in the results in Canada and Hungary to name but two and it probably applies in France as well.

[JamesWales]

Re: Hungarian election

Yes, what’s replacing Orban doesn’t sound great, but it’s clearly an improvement- hard to avoid a feeling that anti American (Trump/Vance) feelings have played a part in the results in Canada and Hungary to name but two and it probably applies in France as well.

Canada certainly is a great example. Whenever people suggest Trump is playing 4G chess then the Canadian election is the best evidence he is at least not very good at it. The election totally flipped on his rhetoric. Could have anyway, but seems doubtful.

I doubt Hungary was so influenced. At the end of the day, 16 years is a very long time to keep the same party in power and people grow tired of constant battles so a vote for change is understandable.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Hungarian election

Great result for EU. Magyar has been anti putin and isreal and pro EU and Ukraine.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Hungarian election

Great result for EU. Magyar has been anti putin and isreal and pro EU and Ukraine.

I can't see Trump wearing a MAGyAr cap.

[jon1959]

Re: Hungarian election

Great result for EU. Magyar has been anti putin and isreal and pro EU and Ukraine.

What has Magyar said or done to make you think he is anti Israel?

Orban was an anti Semite and the closest ally of Netanyahu and Israel.

From what I have read, Magyar shares the same pro-Israel views (often combined with anti Semitism - but that was always a major strand of pro-Israel, pro-Zionist support in the 'Christian West').

He may be more critical of Netanyahu (and Trump, and Putin) - who was a big fan of Orban. But he is unlikely to be that different when it comes to Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, southern Lebanon, western Syria, the 'war on Iran' or the 'from the river to the sea' slogan for a 'biblical' Greater Israel. And Budapest will continue to be littered with pro IDF stickers left by thousands of tourists from Tel Aviv.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Hungarian election

What has Magyar said or done to make you think he is anti Israel?

Orban was an anti Semite and the closest ally of Netanyahu and Israel.

From what I have read, Magyar shares the same pro-Israel views (often combined with anti Semitism - but that was always a major strand of pro-Israel, pro-Zionist support in the 'Christian West').

He may be more critical of Netanyahu (and Trump, and Putin) - who was a big fan of Orban. But he is unlikely to be that different when it comes to Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, southern Lebanon, western Syria, the 'war on Iran' or the 'from the river to the sea' slogan for a 'biblical' Greater Israel. And Budapest will continue to be littered with pro IDF stickers left by thousands of tourists from Tel Aviv.

Time will tell.. Step in the right direction for democracy for all of us

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Hungarian election

What has Magyar said or done to make you think he is anti Israel?

Orban was an anti Semite and the closest ally of Netanyahu and Israel.

From what I have read, Magyar shares the same pro-Israel views (often combined with anti Semitism - but that was always a major strand of pro-Israel, pro-Zionist support in the 'Christian West').

He may be more critical of Netanyahu (and Trump, and Putin) - who was a big fan of Orban. But he is unlikely to be that different when it comes to Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, southern Lebanon, western Syria, the 'war on Iran' or the 'from the river to the sea' slogan for a 'biblical' Greater Israel. And Budapest will continue to be littered with pro IDF stickers left by thousands of tourists from Tel Aviv.

Have a read of this, Jon.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-892871

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Hungarian election

Does this mean the Great Reset is back on?

[jon1959]

Re: Hungarian election

Have a read of this, Jon.
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-892871

Interesting.

[Heathblue]

Re: Hungarian election

I'm not sure the initial exchanges are going the way as planned by the Globalists EU, sometimes the better the Devil you know !