Makerfield by election

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Makerfield by election

Meanwhile, away from Your Party, intellectual property rights and Feedback's history of spreading his bodily fluids....

YouGov's study of the 2026 local elections shows that just 46% of 2024 Labour voters who went to the polls remained loyal to the party, with more backing the Greens (22%) than Reform UK (6%) two weeks ago

The Conservatives retained 55% of their 2024 voters, with 33% switching to Reform UK



https://x.com/YouGov/status/20573868...-green-loss%2F

Trust you to bring this political thread back to the more mundane subject of politics

[jon1959]

Re: Makerfield by election

Is there much to read in those stats those as people don't always vote the same way in local and national elections...

What I would read into those stats is that Labour should be paying more attention to the votes it has lost to the left than to the right.

I am not sure Burnham is doing that, and I know Starmer isn't.

It also shows that Reform's recent electoral support has continued to span the Red Wall and the mainly Brexit-leaning Tory heartlands - from the socially conservative (culture wars), economically liberal (public ownership and higher taxes) at one end, to the socially liberal but economically conservative at the other.

It takes skill and a convincing vision to keep broad churches of electoral support together. Neither Starmer, Badenoch or (especially) Farage have that skill, or even the inclination.

[Feedback]

Re: Makerfield by election

What I would read into those stats is that Labour should be paying more attention to the votes it has lost to the left than to the right.

I am not sure Burnham is doing that, and I know Starmer isn't.

It also shows that Reform's recent electoral support has continued to span the Red Wall and the mainly Brexit-leaning Tory heartlands - from the socially conservative (culture wars), economically liberal (public ownership and higher taxes) at one end, to the socially liberal but economically conservative at the other.

It takes skill and a convincing vision to keep broad churches of electoral support together. Neither Starmer, Badenoch or (especially) Farage have that skill, or even the inclination.

Perhaps a fair assessment but what it means in real terms is that politics is fragmenting into more than 2 party politics. If this fragmentation is here to stay, I expect a period of adjustment and political upheaval (in the UK context) whilst the electorate gets to grips with the new reality

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Makerfield by election

What I would read into those stats is that Labour should be paying more attention to the votes it has lost to the left than to the right.

I am not sure Burnham is doing that, and I know Starmer isn't.

It also shows that Reform's recent electoral support has continued to span the Red Wall and the mainly Brexit-leaning Tory heartlands - from the socially conservative (culture wars), economically liberal (public ownership and higher taxes) at one end, to the socially liberal but economically conservative at the other.

It takes skill and a convincing vision to keep broad churches of electoral support together. Neither Starmer, Badenoch or (especially) Farage have that skill, or even the inclination.

Just the idea of starmer being replaced has brought 50 percent of the lost labour vote back according to MIC poll

The greens will drop away by the time of the general election but will be a very important part of the anti reform vote

[Dorcus]

Re: Makerfield by election

Regardless of the shambles they are, the name is appalling as a brand - and it's comical to think of someone standing on a soapbox in front of people who associate themselves with existing parties seemingly being implored to vote for their own parties e.g. "Vote for Your Party".
Having worked in Intellectual Property, I am hugely surprised that the name got past the Trade Mark examiners - as it's not usual for a TM to throw a blanket over generic titles that other parties (including political parties) can legitimately use regarding their own services, products and brands.

Ridiculous name

[Dorcus]

Re: Makerfield by election

Your reactions do make me laugh.

I knew it. Premature Jack Elation

[Dorcus]

Re: Makerfield by election

Perhaps a fair assessment but what it means in real terms is that politics is fragmenting into more than 2 party politics. If this fragmentation is here to stay, I expect a period of adjustment and political upheaval (in the UK context) whilst the electorate gets to grips with the new reality

I think eventually (maybe sooner rather than later) it will return to 2 party politics with a straight left v right confrontation. Tactical voting is going that way.